NXT durability- bah!

dlw

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After going through my first bottle of NXT, I've come to the conclusion that as far as durabilty, NXT ranks as low as anything I have ever used, period. Although I usually wash, VM and NXT my 5 cars every week, I began to suspect a lack of long term protection. The final straw for me was today because my Silver '98 CRV had escaped washing for almost 3 weeks. Mind you, there have been 2 rain showers over this time, but no extreme weather that I think would effect the results.



I washed the car with Megs Deep Crystal car wash today and I swear there was no sign of beads, sheets or any other indication there was anything other than raw clearcoat on the car. Running your hand across the surface, it stopped like you just snagged the arresting hook on an aircraft carrier, with a resounding squeak. I know quite a few have said they thought that NXT had good durability, but they must have completely different conditions than I do. I've been noticing a lack of beading, etc on all the cars after only a week anyway.



Before the naysayers begin, while I never claim to be some kind of expert, I have been detailing my own cars for over 40 years and am a pretty picky guy when it comes to my rides. I've used about everything out there and have even been a Z distributor in the past, done a few complete car color sands, painted a couple of complete cars, so I'm not a newbie per say.



I'm not here to put Meg's down or anything else, just posting an observation. I still think the combo of VM and NXT produce the best look I've ever had on my dark red Vette and my son's pure black Prelude, and I will keep using it on those two cars for now, knowing that a temperary beautiful shine from NXT is what I getting on those 2 cars. As for the other cars, I've got Z, Souveran, Clearcoat Moose carnuba, and Turtle Wax's new Ultra Gloss polish (honestly not bad at all for about $7). I'm just gonna play with all of them for a while on different cars to see how it goes.
 
NXT was DOA after the 2nd wash for me on my dark green Explorer. It was just like yours, no beading, no sheeting, no slickness...........basically no nothing.
 
The longest I've ever let it goes is 6 weeks. Obviously that would make me no expert on the longevity of this product. At the 6 week mark mine still beaded water very well. I do however use WAUD and Final Detail weekly between details. Maybe that's the only reason I'm seeng this result, I don't know. Interesting the results would be so dramatically different.
 
Gearhead_1, yes you're right, the difference in results is odd to say the least. Even if we are under totally different conditions though, I have never, ever, had any wax or polish die as quick as the NXT does for me. I did try topping the roof and hood of my Vette with Souveran over the NXT. Just did this last night, so I won't know for a while, but only did it because I'm curious. As I said, I do all 5 cars every week so durablity is not that critical, it's just that NXT fell so short in that respect that I'm stunned. BTW, just finished washing the pure black Prelude and applying the VM. It's about 85 degrees out, so I'm gonna pull it in the garage and take a break. Then, just to show there's no hard feelings, I'm gonna lay on a coat of NXT! LOL, like I said, nuts to durability, the black never looked so great before NXT, it literally turns heads when it goes down the street. For a shiney car nut like me, that's the ultimate high, even if it only lasts a few days. As far as topping the NXT with something, with 5 cars to do each weekend, I just don't have the time for a third step after VM and whatever wax/polish I use.
 
WOW but im not suprised because I heard it before.dlw you have some workout but seriously if you try a nice carnuba wax that is cheap($15) and lasts with a clear finish great for red and black try NATTIES wax from poorboys I had great results and it has durabiliy throw away the NXT
 
BradE said:
NXT was DOA after the 2nd wash for me on my dark green Explorer. It was just like yours, no beading, no sheeting, no slickness...........basically no nothing.



LOL about DOA:up



Same here,lasts about 10 days in Arizona:down
 
Can't really speak to the experiences posted here but, mine has been totally different. I applied NXT with no prep other than a wash using NXT Tech Wash on January 14, 2004. The picture below was taken about a month later a few days after being washed. I had it on my paint for about 3 months before the next detail. In that time I did not notice a lack of beading or slickness except towards the end. You will also notice that it does not bead for a short time after being washed with NXT Tech Wash.



NXT Tech Wash is designed to promote sheeting rather than beeding and the sheeting seems to stick around for a short time after a wash and then it does bead again.



I had it on the paint for a total of 3 months. I normally don't wait that long to detail but, it was my first time with NXT Tech Wax and I wanted to get an idea of its durability. During those three months we had two snows and the salt/sand on the roads that go along with the snow. I also commute 2 hours a day. This is definitely NOT a garaged vehicle. It only spends the night in the barn, the rest of the time it is on the road or parked at work. All I did to maintain it was a weekly wash using NXT Tech Wash.



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this basically have been my experience

(non garaged, washed weekly with NXT wash)

week 1- looks great, beading, slick

week 2- looks good, sheeting, some slickness

week 3- looks good, no slickness, no beading/etc

week 4 - same, shine starts to dull

week 5- looks OK, needs to be redone



weeks 1-4 I can still "feel" the protection while washing, even if it is not slick before a wash. After 4 weeks the felt protection starts to fade with the look. It might last longer on a garaged vehicle, but not sure.

I am sure it does not protect against bug guts and bird $hit as well as Klasse or Zaino and even a natural wax IMHO.
 
hmmm, i agree with you that NXT does not bead. however, i like to layer NXT with another wax. im planning on using Natty's over NXT this week. ive noticed that it doesnt bead at all, but like what most of you said, it tend to sheet. if thats good or not, im not sure.
 
ZESTY-MAN I see you took down your picture of JAMIN TREIS see she gets the boot and then you bail on her........
 
Where were you guys to back me up last week when I was getting crucified in the 'should I buy NXT?' (paraphrasing) thread. All the NXT lovers were hammering away at me when I told the original poster not to waste his money.



Bill.
 
Yosemite Dan said:
Looks like I won't be using any NXT anytime soon now that I already discovered I have some at home-Meg's Gold Class. :(



Yeah if you are gonna let people here make up your mind for you. I wouldn't have tried lots of the products I use today if I just blindly followed what I read on boards like this. NXT is no different than any other product where people on both sides of the track get differing results from the same product. I think you would be missing out if you make up your mind about NXT based on such a small but, very vocal sample of the Autopia population who has tried NXT.
 
SergC said:
Sorry Bill...



I was in Italy:D



Let them read this one



Serg



Italy!!! Serg, stop making me jealous! I wanna go back this Summer. I was there two years ago. Loved every minute of it!



Bill. :up
 
BillNorth said:
Italy!!! Serg, stop making me jealous! I wanna go back this Summer. I was there two years ago. Loved every minute of it!



Bill. :up



Italy !!!:xyxthumbs



Although it was a work trip...



Serg
 
Hard to understand the differing experiences of NXT users. I did my MR2 on 4/21/04 and today it looks as good as the day I applied it. Which is very good, BTW. This is my daily driver and a 14 year old car. It is garaged at night. It has survived numerous rains (raining nearly every day lately:() and 4 washings with NXT Wash. Still beads water profusely.



I wish we were able to identify what is causing this product to fail for some and excel for others. I suspect it may be the prep products used but who knows?



I can say with confidence, that for me, NXT is performing better than most of the waxes I have used over the 45 years that I have been detailing and pampering cars.



I love this product for it's ease of use and deep wet shine. I normally redo my MR2 every 30 days but I'm going to let it go a few more weeks to see just how long this product will perform.
 
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