Dan
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blucpe said:
OCW looks great over anything :nana:
Not happy with FK 1000P
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OCW looks great over anything :nana:
imported_MBenz
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Dsoto87 said:
Or is it a synthetic wax?
blucpe said:
Agreed.
1000p usually plays well with others. The convoluted mess of lps i have on my desert silver benz right now is poli-seal, p21s (i think), DWG, 1000p. It really looks amazing. On the silver BMW i made a DWG 1000p DWG sandwich (thanks Bigpikle) and it is super wet looking, almost zaino like. Then again both cars are a metallic silver. I have not had any trouble in the looks department and the word will be in this spring on durability. I wish i could comment on white, but i have been so happy with 476s on the white cars that i have yet to break out the 1000p on them.
SuperBee364
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Interesting how some guys are having problems with 1000P muting their finish. My car is bright metallic blue, and if anything, it seems 1000p really "pops" the flake and gives it a crystal clear look where the flakes look 3D. Best look I've ever seen a sealant give, actually, and zero muting.:nixweiss
wannafbody
wannafbody
Most waxes are opaque and will mute mettallics. It's more noticable on lighter colors and generally more acceptable on darker colors.
SuperBee364
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wannafbody said:
1000P is not a wax, it's a sealant.
So far I've used 1000p on two white cars...one is a metallic pearl white and the other is a non-metallic white. I am very pleased with the "look" on the metallic and less so with the non-metallic. On the non-metallic it has a great shine but almost no depth (as advertised).
Seems to be holding up very well...which is a very good thing.
Seems to be holding up very well...which is a very good thing.
I wonder why I'm getting such a different result from most others. I've been reading as much as I can about 1000P threads and I noticed one thing. The smell of it has been described as neutral in other 1000P threads, but my tin smells like shoe polish. Pretty strong smell, too.
When Leda from FK shipped me my 1000P, she initially sent me the wrong tin. It was the gold one that said Mold Release on top, with part #1000 instead of 1000P. That one had the same strong shoe polish smell as well.
I wonder if there are different blends or batches.
When Leda from FK shipped me my 1000P, she initially sent me the wrong tin. It was the gold one that said Mold Release on top, with part #1000 instead of 1000P. That one had the same strong shoe polish smell as well.
I wonder if there are different blends or batches.
Accumulator
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bosco381 said:
Yours sounds the same as mine.
There *can* be some slight diffs in batches though, my old sample tin was a bit different from my "regular" tin.
Deep Gloss Auto Salon
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Perhaps FK1 added a little something to their 100P instead of just repackaging...
I know my 425 that I recently got directly from Finish Kare looks & smells just a little different than what I used to get from FK1
I know my 425 that I recently got directly from Finish Kare looks & smells just a little different than what I used to get from FK1
The more I use 1000p the more I like it. Initially, I had a few problems with application and removal but I think I've gotten that worked out. I've found that a soft cotton pad works best for applying this product...at least that's my experience. Using this method, I now find it easy to apply a thin even coat and after letting it dry for about 20 - 30 minutes, easily removed.
Rob Tomlin
Lotus Exige S
bosco381 said:
Well, since nobody else has mentioned it, I guess I will go out on a limb and say that perhaps you are not getting the same results as others (although even that may be debatable based on some of your descriptions of the look) is because not everyone else is doing what you are doing!
I.e., you say that you "applied a coat of 1000P last Saturday on my white 4Runner. It was applied over Werkstat Prime and 2 coats of AJT. The AJT twins had a bright and wet look."
I don't think there are too many people who apply 1000p over AJT. So, that's one obvious difference.
AJT and 1000p do, indeed, give rather different looks. These happen to be two products that I am quite familiar with.
I am curious: if you were happy with the "bright and wet look" of the Werkstat, what were you hoping to accomplish with the 1000p?
Rob Tomlin said:
I was hoping to find out what 1000p was all about, to see if I can duplicate for myself all the good feedback it was getting, and to satisfy my curiosity. The reported durability would've been a bonus. Being happy with one product doesn't stop me from trying another.
I was also wondering if 1000P over the AJTs skewed the appearance. I asked JJ at FK, though, if applying 1000P over the Werkstats would affect its apperance, and he didn't think it would.
wannafbody
wannafbody
SuperBee364 said:
Hi Temp Synthetic Paste Wax>>
That's direct from the Finish Kare site. Finish Kare classifies it as a wax. Is it clear or opaque? I don't know as I've never seen any.
Are you serious man? Someone with your knowledge should know that a name is only a name.
If you believed every name a manufacture slapped on a product youd be in big trouble. Is NXT a wax? No..... Is DG 111 or Zaino Z2 a polish? No...
Heres the big question regarding varying 1000p.
Why the hell did 1000p coming from FK1 come in a different container than FKs? Im sure its easy to transfer a liquid from a 55 gallon drum to a different 1 gallon container, but why would FK1 transfer a paste from 1 to another? Especially since it looks like the container sizes are different. Could FK been actually producing these tins?
Rob Tomlin
Lotus Exige S
bosco381 said:
Nothing wrong with trying out new products to satisfy curiosity at all. We all do that here.
That said, if I were trying out a new product like 1000p, I would make sure that I used it on a freshly polished surface, free from effects of other products such as the Werkstat.
If the paint didn't need polishing, I would have done an alcohol wipe down.
Then again, based on your descriptions, I don't know that you aren't getting the same look that would be expected with the 1000p anyway.
Dsoto87 said:
We need to accept the fact that Autopian common use does not define these words. Actual definitions:
polish: a substance used to give smoothness or gloss
wax: any of a group of substances composed of hydrocarbons, alcohols, fatty acids, and esters that are solid at ordinary temperatures
sealant: a substance used for sealing, as sealing wax or adhesives
So one product may be a polish, sealant, and a wax.