New Zaino Paint Cleanser

Interesting...finally the Z swirl remover has arrived.



So, for the product testers (blkz28conv)....how's it compare on the abrasive scale to say, DACP?



I guess there's no more reason to not try Z anymore....:D
 
2wheelsx2 said:
Interesting...finally the Z swirl remover has arrived.



So, for the product testers (blkz28conv)....how's it compare on the abrasive scale to say, DACP?



I guess there's no more reason to not try Z anymore....:D
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IMHO the Z-PC is oh so slightly less abrasives than Meguiar's DACP. The most important difference is the final breakdown effects of the Z-PC. This product requires NO follow-up after using properly (working product until basically gone) produces an extremely high gloss, amazing smoothness, deep, wet and no hazed finished.



In the real world, what Z-PC will not correct will require a larger step up than Meg's DACP (i.e Menzerna IP) and than follow with Z-PC. So basically, the starting points are about equal.:xyxthumbs



As I have mentioned in the past, this is the final link (components not evolution) in the Zaino system and personally the most important of all the new products introduced this year. :bow



Great work Sal!!! :wavey
 
Sounds good. Thanks for the details. I was rather intrigued by the note that stated that the polish can get more "bite" if the pad is spritzed with water first.



With regards to follow-up with other products, in my personal experience, I have never had to follow up DACP with other products, even on flat black. But I have read many others with different experience, so YMMV.
 
blkz28conv,



How much of the Z-PC would you say is required to polish an average-sized sedan? $13 for 8 oz. of polish is a bit pricey (won't keep me from trying it, but I may keep it all for myself instead of using it on family/friend cars, if you know what I mean).



Thanks,

Tort
 
I just got this email:



Dear Charlie Hahn,

Zaino Show Car Polish Releases Zaino Z-PC Fusion Dual Action Paint Cleaner

Swirl Remover



The wait is over! We wanted to let you know our newest product, Zaino Fusion

Dual Action Paint Cleaner Swirl Remover ("Z-PC"), is now available.



• Eliminate common paint defects quickly and easily!



• 100% compatibility with all painted surfaces and Zaino paint products!



• Water-based formula means no mess, no staining, and easy clean up!



• Features the world's first true self-dissolving, fused tri-particulate,

diminishing abrasive system



• No fillers or oils, just results that last and last!



• Perfect your paint with Zaino Z-PC Fusion







Zaino Z-PC Fusion is available now at Zaino's online store (www.zainostore.com)

or

by telephone at 888-999-9870.

Technical questions or media inquiries should be directed to: 732-833-8800.







Thank you,



The staff at Zainostore.com



Yeehaw folks, it's here!!
 
"The ultra-intelligent abrasives gently and carefully knockdown high spots on your car to reveal an extremely smooth, super-reflective, mile-deep shine. "



That line made me laugh, only because I would have never throught to market car polish as "intelligent."
 
2wheelsx2 said:
Sounds good. Thanks for the details. I was rather intrigued by the note that stated that the polish can get more "bite" if the pad is spritzed with water first.
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I saw that too. But what interested me was the next sentence, "Water can also be used to minimize dusting when using a machine buffer." Does that mean that this is a particularlly dusty polish; that I should expect dust unless I spritz the pad with water and get more "bite" (is that necessarily a good thing all the time?) in the process?
 
After reading about this product on here for the last couple weeks I got the impression that this product would be something like an AIO replacer. However, after reading Zaino's description of it, it seems more like a light polish (similar to Menzerna FPII???). Anyways, I'm pretty much a n00b, so I'm not sure. Can someone clarify as to what this product is similar to? Thanks.
 
kpagel said:
After reading about this product on here for the last couple weeks I got the impression that this product would be something like an AIO replacer. However, after reading Zaino's description of it, it seems more like a light polish (similar to Menzerna FPII???). Anyways, I'm pretty much a n00b, so I'm not sure. Can someone clarify as to what this product is similar to? Thanks.
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I am wondering this same thing. Also what pad should I use? A light cutting pad, or a finishing pad?

Would this be similiar to something like Sonus paintworks cleanser?
 
I haven't used this, so YMMV, but since it's a swirl remover, I believe a polishing pad would be the best pad for this. You won't get enough cutting power with a finishing pad, and you'll get too much cutting power for the polish with a cutting pad, which will probably leave marring.
 
blkZ28Conv said:
IMHO the Z-PC is oh so slightly less abrasives than Meguiar's DACP. The most important difference is the final breakdown effects of the Z-PC. This product requires NO follow-up after using properly (working product until basically gone) produces an extremely high gloss, amazing smoothness, deep, wet and no hazed finished.



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So is it in the realm of #80 ?....I think you answered this question before, but my memory is a blur.:o



Eitherway.....:woot: :cool: :D
 
blkZ28Conv said:
IMHO the Z-PC is oh so slightly less abrasives than Meguiar's DACP. The most important difference is the final breakdown effects of the Z-PC. This product requires NO follow-up after using properly (working product until basically gone) produces an extremely high gloss, amazing smoothness, deep, wet and no hazed finished.



In the real world, what Z-PC will not correct will require a larger step up than Meg's DACP (i.e Menzerna IP) and than follow with Z-PC. So basically, the starting points are about equal.:xyxthumbs



As I have mentioned in the past, this is the final link (components not evolution) in the Zaino system and personally the most important of all the new products introduced this year. :bow



Great work Sal!!! :wavey
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Seems I remember the Z-PC had small amounts of Zaino, like an AIO, is that correct?



Man the product description for it was exciting and really brought up some emotion.........:bawling:, it was liking describing an exotic sports car :chuckle:
 
Tort,

My usage amount for a full size SUV was about the same as any finishing polish I have used in the past. If surface is in Autopian shape and using a PC 1/2 - 1 oz will complete the job. 1/2 oz will complete the LS400 and 1/2 oz for the Z28 convertible.

Take in consideration that one pass (full breakdown cycle) per area was required to re-establish my real-world perfect finish.







Correction after reviewed my testing notes when I arrived home and searching for the thread with this data. The data stated above is from subsequent polishing when surface was in great shape following previous testing of beta sample of Z-CP.



After session with Menzerna IP.

I will say that 1 oz by PC did the sides. hood and rear of my Escalade (white), less than 0.75 oz my black Z28 convertible and about 1.5 oz on my step-son's Mazda 6(white). Worked equally as well on both colors. I was able to use this product in direct Spring sunlight on the Escalade (white) and Madza 6 (white) without any problems. I never work on black in the sun even if products states that it is sun friendly.





The only time I found this product to produce sufficient dust was by using too much product. The moistening of the pad is just a recommendation that applies to all polishing compounds to increase bite by lengthening the polishing cycle. Z-PC is no different. As one becomes more familiar with this product the usage and adjustments to such will result in decrease amounts used, pressure required to eliminate blemish, proper choice on what will be needed to eliminate blemish in a timely manner (i.e. several passes with Z-PC or 1 pass with IP and 1 pass with Z-PC) and amount needed to accomplish task and reducing dusting secondary to using too large an amount on pad. I did find that if Z-PC embedded in pad is allowed to dry on pad (i.e. telephone call during polishing) a sufficient amount of dust will result. To prevent this a spritz of H2O or Z6 on pad will rehydrate the pad and prevent this occurrence.



Corey, I thought the phrasing of Z-PC diminishing abrasives (intelligent) was very creative. Sal could have used the normal "high tech" phasing. :nixweiss



Z-PC is not Zaino's AIO. Though AIO does have mild abrasives, it is more of a cleanser (i.e. VM & GECP).



kpagel

(I will look back for my description of what I called Zaino C/P (cleansing/polish) from April)



Z-PC vs PO85RD (thank you gt1today): both excellent products. Z-PC slightly more polishing ability with the same or IMO better final gloss. Z-PC is ahead of PO85RD in the fact the results with either PC or hand will produce results quite similiar to using a rotary. PO85RD does not have this versatility from my experiences using both. With that stated one would be hard pressed to see a difference in results if both Z-PC and PO85RD were applied properly with a rotary.

Z-PC is design specifically for the usage with Zaino polishes, though it would be a great base for any LSP system, without any compromise in appearance, durability and maximal bonding.



The smell is intoxicating - Melon!!!! :bow
 
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