We all talk about how great ZBK, 303, Stoners, FI-2, #34, and others are, but what products have you had a really bad experienes with? For me, its has got to be Meguiars #26 Paste . That stuff is nice to apply, but has to be the hardest product to remove. One of the reasons I switched over to Zaino, because I heard it was easiest to apply and remove.
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I think Mother's wax and some of their polish are the worse I have to dela with. Their original carnuba wax for example leave tons of white powdery residue after you buff it off and gums up the towel big time. Very messy product to deal with. Same with their polish.
Don't get me wrong, but some of Mothers product are fantastic. I do like their dressing, clay (thou hard to work with), and their quick detailer.
Anyone tried their new Reflections wax?
Don't get me wrong, but some of Mothers product are fantastic. I do like their dressing, clay (thou hard to work with), and their quick detailer.
Anyone tried their new Reflections wax?
I'd say Mother's Back to Black. It runs like crazy from moisture. Even a heavy dew will have this stuff streaking like crazy. Pretty poor for a product that is designed for exterior trim.
Vinylex has this tendency too. However its saving grace is that it works well on the dash. 303 is my favorite for exterior plastic and vinyl.
Vinylex has this tendency too. However its saving grace is that it works well on the dash. 303 is my favorite for exterior plastic and vinyl.
Clean Dean
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This stuff looks great and is easy to apply, but..... Don't ever attempt to use on a freshly waxed black car. This stuff leaves micro-splatter all over the hood, trunk, and fenders. For some reason this "micro-splatter does not show on a silver car.
Jngrbrdman
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I'm with Short Cut on the Back to Black stuff. That was worthless. I ended up just using shoe polish. I was selling the car anyway and just wanted that trim to look decent.
The only product I hate with a passion is the California Car Duster. I know it works if you use it right but I guess I didn't. I loved my Mustang more than any car I ever drove and when I saw what the CCD did to it I soaked that puppy in gas and lit it up like a torch. It really ticked me off.
Every now and then I think about giving it another shot but I think I'm still traumatized by what it did last time. Sort of like being mauled by a pit-bull or something. You just can't look at even a poodle again without having a flash back.
The only product I hate with a passion is the California Car Duster. I know it works if you use it right but I guess I didn't. I loved my Mustang more than any car I ever drove and when I saw what the CCD did to it I soaked that puppy in gas and lit it up like a torch. It really ticked me off.
Every now and then I think about giving it another shot but I think I'm still traumatized by what it did last time. Sort of like being mauled by a pit-bull or something. You just can't look at even a poodle again without having a flash back.
Andre'
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Yup LOL Mother's Back to Black is crap
. I also hate Meguiar's Endurance tire protectant and Meguiar's clay.:down :down
. I also hate Meguiar's Endurance tire protectant and Meguiar's clay.:down :down
Pats300zx
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I have had good experience with Mother's B to B. It does have a tendency to run and I end up using it to detail the hoses in my engine bay for my show car.
As far as the CCD goes I have NEVER had any problems with it at all. I think it really has to do with how its used as far as if you will get scratches.
I hate Meguiars Endurance..too slimy and gooey. Stoners MSLT or Eagle One for me...:xyxthumbs
As far as the CCD goes I have NEVER had any problems with it at all. I think it really has to do with how its used as far as if you will get scratches.
I hate Meguiars Endurance..too slimy and gooey. Stoners MSLT or Eagle One for me...:xyxthumbs
imported_Intermezzo
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I don't really hate it, but I was pretty disappointed in 3M Show Car Wax. My hard work was pretty much gone after 1 to 2 washes.
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by blackrex [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>:nixweiss Andre Why do you hate Meguiar's endurance? I've had good results so far with it. [/b]</blockquote>
I'm with Andre. It's one of the few products that I gave away and didnt bother using for lesser tasks. I found it to be short lived, greasy shine, and required a bit more work to apply and remove. This is in comparison to Lexol, 303, and EO Satin. All of those give consistant, easy results, and with a nice sheen that I did not find with Endurance.
It might be a fine product, but for me it was not worth the effort or learning curve when I already had others that I liked.
<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by blackrex [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>:nixweiss Andre Why do you hate Meguiar's endurance? I've had good results so far with it. [/b]</blockquote>
I'm with Andre. It's one of the few products that I gave away and didnt bother using for lesser tasks. I found it to be short lived, greasy shine, and required a bit more work to apply and remove. This is in comparison to Lexol, 303, and EO Satin. All of those give consistant, easy results, and with a nice sheen that I did not find with Endurance.
It might be a fine product, but for me it was not worth the effort or learning curve when I already had others that I liked.
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I don't really hate it, but I was pretty disappointed in 3M Show Car Wax. My hard work was pretty much gone after 1 to 2 washes.</blockquote>
I hear ya Tony. I also tried this wax on my Jag a few months ago and was disapppointed with it. The initial shine was good, but the durability was pathetic.
As for products that I hate, well Armor All has to be at the top of the list. Also the greasy "high shine" tire dressings. IMO they make tires look like total crap.
I don't really hate it, but I was pretty disappointed in 3M Show Car Wax. My hard work was pretty much gone after 1 to 2 washes.</blockquote>
I hear ya Tony. I also tried this wax on my Jag a few months ago and was disapppointed with it. The initial shine was good, but the durability was pathetic.
As for products that I hate, well Armor All has to be at the top of the list. Also the greasy "high shine" tire dressings. IMO they make tires look like total crap.
imported_BretFraz
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1. All those silicone-filled hi-gloss tire shines. Not only do they make your tires look nasty, but the overspray is so hard to remove from paint and trim that you need rubbing alcohol to do the job. Horrible stuff. And the fact that it speeds up rubber erosion makes it that much worse.
2. Bug removers that don't. I've used all kinds of bug and tar removers but most are some petroleum product that does an OK job on tar but nothing on bugs. I hate bug goo on my car and I also hate all the rubbing and scrubbing to get them off. I finally found a good bug remover from Hi Temp Products that I'm fairly happy with.
2. Bug removers that don't. I've used all kinds of bug and tar removers but most are some petroleum product that does an OK job on tar but nothing on bugs. I hate bug goo on my car and I also hate all the rubbing and scrubbing to get them off. I finally found a good bug remover from Hi Temp Products that I'm fairly happy with.
DETAILKING
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There are various TSB's about spraying silicone oil containing tire dressing in the engine bay and around it....aka....wheel wells....
Turns out the silicone oils mess up the O2 sensors and results in a $$$ repair. I will post the article later....I have it at home bookmarked.........
Turns out the silicone oils mess up the O2 sensors and results in a $$$ repair. I will post the article later....I have it at home bookmarked.........
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by DETAILKING [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Turns out the silicone oils mess up the O2 sensors and results in a $$$ repair. I will post the article later....I have it at home bookmarked......... [/b]</blockquote>
Yeah, please post. I've heard it too, but would like to see a "real" article on it. I'm still trying to imagine how silicone could make it into your air intake, survive combustion, and make it through the exhaust system to the O2 sensor. Your article should explain all that. Thanks.
<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by DETAILKING [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Turns out the silicone oils mess up the O2 sensors and results in a $$$ repair. I will post the article later....I have it at home bookmarked......... [/b]</blockquote>
Yeah, please post. I've heard it too, but would like to see a "real" article on it. I'm still trying to imagine how silicone could make it into your air intake, survive combustion, and make it through the exhaust system to the O2 sensor. Your article should explain all that. Thanks.
DETAILKING
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I have something more in depth, I will try to find..........
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What other problems can silicone-based products cause?
Oxygen sensors, which are part of the vehicle's emission-control system, are poisoned by silicone-based products. Silicone should never be used under the hood of a car.
Silicone products get sucked into oxygen sensors, and this can affect vehicle performance. Oxygen sensors cost roughly $200 to replace.
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What other problems can silicone-based products cause?
Oxygen sensors, which are part of the vehicle's emission-control system, are poisoned by silicone-based products. Silicone should never be used under the hood of a car.
Silicone products get sucked into oxygen sensors, and this can affect vehicle performance. Oxygen sensors cost roughly $200 to replace.