Micro Fiber vs. 100% cotton cloth for QD

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Well, last week I posted that I was having problems with Clear Pearl and Showoff QD's smearing after applying them to my freshly washed/dry car. I did a test today on a smoked glass panel just like my moonroof. What I found was that since both CP and SO have wax in them, using MF towels leave a smearing which turned out to be linting. It appears that the fibers drag and leaves what looks like smearing, just what I witnessed on my roof and moonroof last week. Even if I spray some QD on the MF, it still lints, not as much but more than cotton. However, if I use my 100% cotton polishing cloths, there is no smearing/linting just a high gloss shine. So, I tried both Viper MF and the Miracle Towel MF, brand new, never washed and also tried both after one washing but still they lint like crazy. Any way to stop the linting? If not, I'll stick to cotton cloth. Sometimes what is touted as new and improved, is worse than what's old and proven.:(
 
Nothing wrong with 100% cotton and it’s doing a better job in your case. Only thing I can think of is that you may be using too much QD? I had slightly better results buffing to a high gloss with 100% cotton and CP but no linting problems with MF's. I just started using Wizard’s mist ‘n shine (no carnauba) and used 100% cotton, total streak and smear fest. MF’s on the other hand work fantastic.
 
Well, everyone is certainly entitiled to their opinion. I, however, much prefer microfiber towels to cotton towels for quick detailing. Not even close really.
 
There have been many threads on here about the "new" Miracle Towels, and MF towels. Many people are have the same problem as you are having. My newest Miracle Towel leaves lint all over the place. I have washed it 3 times, and it still leaves lint. I think I am going to start using 100% cotton for some of my detailing. They should have left the Miracle Towels alone, if it aint broke dont fix it.
 
For me, personally, would never go back to cotton for quick detailing. I don't get smearing. I should probably buy some Koala towels (if I can find some of the good ol' ones) and work with those, too. But microfiber for me when applying Show-Off and Clear Pearl.
 
I think I have a good Koala Towel from CMA purchased 2 years ago. It is the blue one? I still have one in the original packaging.



I am also looking for these towels. I used one and was like wow, that second one is not going to be opened because it might be worth something later on.



Now I am in search of these blue ones...anyone still have a case??



Jason
 
Jason, I think we belong to the same fraternity. I, too, have kept an unused Miracle Towel that is now almost 2 years old. There is a difference between the older ones and the newer ones.
 
I popped open my CMA MT from 2 years ago about 5 months ago. My mom uses it to dust the living room.



There is a difference in the newer ones than this one. The older one is a little bit softer and plusher. I just use the newer one to dust my room every other day.



Well back to the topic, I have no problems with using CP and OG Qd with a cotton towel. I don't think I have used a MF or MT to QD yet, these things are so darn expensive.



Jason
 
I, too, have had problems with Miracle Towels putting those tiny, tiny lint fibers on when quick detailing. They didn't do it when removing products like AIO, KSG, or Souveran. It was just as described by rad21 - like you could almost feel the fibers being pulled from the cloth, it was so "grippy" when slightly damp from QD. And the lint doesn't blow away (static, I think), but does wipe off easily. Ironically, with a dry MT with very little pressure.



Washing seems to help. I marked the one that linted the worst, and used only it for a while. After about 4 washings (machine, warm water, small amount of detergent, no softener, and dried in the dryer on medium heat) it doesn't lint at all. I then washed all of my towels 3 times, they hardly lint, if at all, anymore.



Hope this is of help.



Blue skies,

Andy
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by hook [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>I, too, have had problems with Miracle Towels putting those tiny, tiny lint fibers on when quick detailing. They didn't do it when removing products like AIO, KSG, or Souveran. It was just as described by rad21 - like you could almost feel the fibers being pulled from the cloth, it was so "grippy" when slightly damp from QD. And the lint doesn't blow away (static, I think), but does wipe off easily. Ironically, with a dry MT with very little pressure.

Washing seems to help. I marked the one that linted the worst, and used only it for a while. After about 4 washings (machine, warm water, small amount of detergent, no softener, and dried in the dryer on medium heat) it doesn't lint at all. I then washed all of my towels 3 times, they hardly lint, if at all, anymore.

Hope this is of help.

Blue skies,
Andy [/b]</blockquote>
Thanks Andy, now I know I am not crazy:bounce
 
I now have 5 Miracle towels, one is only 4 weeks old, and about 20 Nicsand MF towels. I will only use MF when QD'ing except for that new Miracle towel. <strong class='bbc'>IT SUCKS![/b] Drags across the finish, leaves lint,etc. etc. It's been washed at least 4 times and no change. The sad part is that I would rather use the Nicsand $2 ea towels over that new $12 Miracle towel.

I've never had any luck using terry cloth for QD. Maybe it's just me, but I really prefer MF.
 
I continue to have good luck with the TW MF towels. Available locally, not quite as plush as a MT, but close, and they don't seem to lint nearly as badly. And they're about $3 a piece.



I wrote a review on them a while back, so far I haven't got anything to add to it except they're still working....



blue skies,

Andy
 
While I have many people waiting on towels, there are others who have towels, like them a lot and have ordered more. I do not see the linting other's have seen.



If your towel lints, have it replaced. Contact the place you bought if from, or the distributor you bought it from and ask them about it.



It's unfortunate that peoples' bad miracle towel's experiences ruin what could be some of the greatest towel experinces. SteveL, ShowroomLincoln, and other's if you wish, when my towels come in and I have filled all my orders, I can let you try one of them. It only costs 3 stamps to send it back to me, which you will have to pay. Otherwise if you like it, which I know you will, you will have to pay for it :)
 
Thanks for the offer, but I think I'm going to contact CMA and let them have a chance of rectifying the problem. Based on the past level of service that I and others have received, I see no reason to think that they won't take care of it.



What towels are you selling? And how much?
 
But it is getting better each time I wash them. I use the warm-cold cycle, 1/3 soap. Just MT's. I have a front-loader.



The lint is tolerable but an annoyance - I got mine from topoftheline.com.
 
I have been using the large MF towels from TOL for QDing for about a week and must say that they're great. I don't like using these for glass but they are tops in my book for QDing and wax/polish removal!





P.S. Thank you Henryk for the towels, you are a true gentleman and I hope that I have the opportunity one day to return to you your generousity.



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MF against Cotton, and cotton won in almost every area. MF tends to be a little overrated to me, although it certainly has it's uses. MF excels in one area, GLASS. Does not remove wax great due to the thinness of the nap. It's OK for QD'ing, but a little inconsistent due to the pulling and tugging. Cotton is better to me. MF is just for finishing and buffing. It's not really cut out for heavy-duty work. My TOL MF does not leave lint, I have various towels from CMA and they all leave lint. Kinda disappointed in MF as a whole, for 5-20 bucks a towel they should wash and wax a car themselves! Sometimes the "Old School" stuff is the best stuff and hard to improve on, like cotton.
 
ZV, did you see the post about the some bad towels ruining it for the rest? your post on the towels grabbing (which I don't experience when I QD) and linting (which I don't experience either) would make for a bad towel. It would make paper towels a better product.



And I agree if I had a towel that didn't do what it was supposed to do then I wouldn't like it. But if you get one that does what it is supposed to do it blows away cotton, IMO.



So exlude all the hype and when my towels get in, I can send you a "trial" towel so you can make a true aasessment.



other points of interests: drying, dashes, mirrors, chrome



I just think that people that have had "bad" experiences with any towel in general aren't getting the correct ones, that's all.
 
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