Menzerna SIP and 106FF = Holy Grail!

Very sweet, I have been reading about Menzerna for some time and will be getting some this spring. Thanks for the positive review.
 
twitch said:
Very nice looking. The paint looks great and the yellow is screaming... LOOK AT ME while at the same time it's got a very warm glow. :clap:



On a side note, I appreciate the picture of the car in your driveway. I had to show my fiance that I am not crazy and that other people cut their lawns in a diagonal fashion. Thanks my friend for showing her that I am not "that weird". We Autopians share OCD habits that make others shake their head sometimes :lol :xyxthumbs
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Yes, you are exactly right about the "Warm glow"! This is NOT a look that I was getting before (with the SSR line). More depth, more warmth, wetter, glossier, and a "sharpness" that I have never achieved before.



Regarding the lawn: next time it is cut, it will be straight (you should alternate the cut).



I guess I just proved you right regarding the OCD habits! :chuckle:
 
Question? If you're trying to do heavy correction on somewhat deeper scratches, will you need to step up to something more agressive than SIP? I tried it with a yellow EDGE foam cutting pad on 2 decent scratches on the hood of my black metallic Town & Country and it didn't remove them (after about 3 minutes). I took a wool pad with my normal abrasive polish and they came out? Is that an uneven comparison? Does SIP cut *alot* more with wool? Is PG a better way to go for the heavier removal. Can you use a medium compound and finish with SIP or even 106FF without any swirls?



BTW - the finish came out really nice after SIP > 106FF. I love the way both products finish clean.
 
yes some times it is faster to step up from sip then to try and make sip work.



Often if i need the same amount of cut for longer i will use mz IP then 106. FWIW sip works for complete crap with wool. MZ ip works much better with wool.
 
Aaron, I can't agree more. I prefer IP with wool much more than SIP with wool. SIP seems to matt the wool for me and then just do nothing.
 
SpoiledMan said:
Somebody will chime in and say that the same can be accomplished with other cheaper polishes. I've tried many others and there's simply a Menzerna difference. Oh yeah, the "filler" crew is on the way too.:D



My 6000th post! :D:D:D
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Menzerna is the number one polish in the world, IMO. I have yet to see a polish that doesn't fill though (except for Zaino Z-PC, which only workds 5 percent of the time)...
 
SpoiledMan said:
Well, there has to be a reason that many aren't seeing this filling that some see.
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A lot of it has to do with the pad and soft paint. But even when it did have the filling effect, 95% of all other polishes did too on the same paint/pad combo. Ultrafina on a blue pad was the only one that finished off 100% on ultra soft clears with no adverse effects.



Just like Menzerna said, they were designed for SRC clears and can be used on harder clears along with some soft ones.



On hard clears they do kick butt!!!!!
 
I don't know what the reason/solution is but I own a car with soft black paint and take care of my sisters '02 Lexus IS with soft black paint. I just don't have any filling issues with either. I'm wondering if it's got something to do with cars that have wax used on them a lot?
 
I don’t think either 106FF or 85RD fillers that fills. I could be total off base but I have played around with this theory and have been able to duplicated on several different non metallic reds and blacks. What I have found is if you use a green pad and 106FF on medium swirls you can finish down to what looks like a LSP ready finish but if you do a PrepSol wipe down and right light you are close but no quite swirl free. What I think happens is the lubricating oil in Menzerna polishes are not filling but disguising swirls temporally, the lubrication adds gloss with in affect makes swirls hard to detect. To me, filling would be use of clay substance to temporally fill the swirls. I think people, like me, that use 106FF and 85RD primarily as a finish or jeweling polish are finishing to a LSP ready finish and are not seeing what some call fill properties of Menzerna polishes. Just my thoughts!!!:xyxthumbs
 
SpoiledMan said:
I don't know what the reason/solution is but I own a car with soft black paint and take care of my sisters '02 Lexus IS with soft black paint. I just don't have any filling issues with either. I'm wondering if it's got something to do with cars that have wax used on them a lot?
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They did say if the paint had a previous wax that had the older silicones, then it would give wierd reactions. It could be part of the problem too.



95% of it is pad. A white pad will leave abrasions. If you top it with a LSP, then you will not see the abrasions for a long time. If you do not top it at all, you will see it in a week or 2.



I gathered all of my info from over 20 top pros here.



SOLUTION: Use a blue LC pad with 106 and the problem is cured.
 
Out of the hundreds of cars that I have used Menzerna on, I only had an issue with a soft black harly. The other was being my Ecalade. Most of us know how crappy the paint is on these GM suv's anyway.
 
SpoiledMan said:
DA's are for paint cleaners.:D Rotary man.
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OK..Good to hear!



Prep Sol will not remove the oils. When Menzerna told me that I did not believe them until I heavily tested it. They were right!



I use a strong body shop alcohol solution wipedown which removes EVERYTHING. All you need is a 70% alcohol cut 50/50. Three wipedowns may have to be done to 100% sure.
 
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