Well Carnauba wax is off limits during the winter monts but I guess I can go with it during the summer months. How about P21S? I guess I can try a Glaze with the wax after its preped real well. I don't really want to spend more then $30 bucks and would like something that lasts a little at least so is P21S the way to go, I always wanted to try it.
Making a Black cars paint POP?
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Well Carnauba wax is off limits during the winter monts but I guess I can go with it during the summer months. How about P21S? I guess I can try a Glaze with the wax after its preped real well. I don't really want to spend more then $30 bucks and would like something that lasts a little at least so is P21S the way to go, I always wanted to try it.
imported_themightytimmah
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There are definetly "winter" carnubas out there. One Grand Blitz, Collinite's whole lineup, Megs #16 will all hold up as well as most sealants, the only thing longer lasting than them is FK2180, SG or Zaino.
imported_themightytimmah
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There are definetly "winter" carnubas out there. One Grand Blitz, Collinite's whole lineup, Megs #16 will all hold up as well as most sealants, the only thing longer lasting than them is FK2180, SG or Zaino.
wannafbody
wannafbody
i don't think of black in terms of POP but rather gloss- a good carnauba can have a warm gloss that a lot of sealants lack. I think of POP in terms of mettallic flake jumping out at you.
wannafbody
wannafbody
i don't think of black in terms of POP but rather gloss- a good carnauba can have a warm gloss that a lot of sealants lack. I think of POP in terms of mettallic flake jumping out at you.
Prometheus
Perfectionist in Rehab
Carnuba can last. I have a black car that turned out pretty well, and I applied 2 coats of Meg's 16 end of last October and it got me through winter (and Michigan winters last from about October to April). Wasn't much left of it by the end of April/Mid May when I got out the detailing stuff for the year, but it WAS still there. Moral of the story is, Carnubas can last.
Prometheus
Perfectionist in Rehab
Carnuba can last. I have a black car that turned out pretty well, and I applied 2 coats of Meg's 16 end of last October and it got me through winter (and Michigan winters last from about October to April). Wasn't much left of it by the end of April/Mid May when I got out the detailing stuff for the year, but it WAS still there. Moral of the story is, Carnubas can last.
03Black1.8t
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themightytimmah said:
2nd that! :clap:
03Black1.8t
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themightytimmah said:
2nd that! :clap:
Prometheus said:
Hear, hear! And I thought I was seeing things. A lot of people do not believe it, but honest to goodness, if its applied right, it will last the full brunt of an eastern winter. I've seen it and experienced it myself.
I wouldn't, or at least myself personally, put two different carnaubas together. Although I don't use sealants, if you wanted to combine products, then I would've used a sealant months earlier before layering the carnauba.
Prometheus said:
Hear, hear! And I thought I was seeing things. A lot of people do not believe it, but honest to goodness, if its applied right, it will last the full brunt of an eastern winter. I've seen it and experienced it myself.
I wouldn't, or at least myself personally, put two different carnaubas together. Although I don't use sealants, if you wanted to combine products, then I would've used a sealant months earlier before layering the carnauba.
Prometheus
Perfectionist in Rehab
I don't think you could do #16 with s100 on top because I dont think the s100 would have anything to "stick" to. The 16 leaves a very slick surface, so I dont think applying s100 would do anything, as it would probably all jsut wipe off.
Prometheus
Perfectionist in Rehab
I don't think you could do #16 with s100 on top because I dont think the s100 would have anything to "stick" to. The 16 leaves a very slick surface, so I dont think applying s100 would do anything, as it would probably all jsut wipe off.
Glossmaster
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themightytimmah said:
Once again, the mightytimmah has hit the nail right on the head! VM topped with Natty's Blue & or Souveran is simply stunning on black paint. Amazing depth & wetness.
As for making black paint "pop"............My 2005 Toyota Tacoma wears "Black Sand Pearl" paint. NOTHING............& I MEAN NOTHING has made the metallic flakes "pop" like the Z5/Z2 Pro/Z6/Z8 combo. Under the Zaino, the flakes leap from the paint as if they're standing atop the paint. If it's "pop" you're looking for....Zaino's the way to go IMO.
As for my taste........I'm a carnauba junkie. I love the look (depth, wetness, liquid shimmer) of quality carnaubas. Carnaubas tend to mute the flakes a bit & draw your eye to the actual color of the paint as opposed accenting the metallic flakes. For that look, Natty's Blue & Souveran have no equal.
Glossmaster
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themightytimmah said:
Once again, the mightytimmah has hit the nail right on the head! VM topped with Natty's Blue & or Souveran is simply stunning on black paint. Amazing depth & wetness.
As for making black paint "pop"............My 2005 Toyota Tacoma wears "Black Sand Pearl" paint. NOTHING............& I MEAN NOTHING has made the metallic flakes "pop" like the Z5/Z2 Pro/Z6/Z8 combo. Under the Zaino, the flakes leap from the paint as if they're standing atop the paint. If it's "pop" you're looking for....Zaino's the way to go IMO.
As for my taste........I'm a carnauba junkie. I love the look (depth, wetness, liquid shimmer) of quality carnaubas. Carnaubas tend to mute the flakes a bit & draw your eye to the actual color of the paint as opposed accenting the metallic flakes. For that look, Natty's Blue & Souveran have no equal.