Klasse AIO removal without wiping?

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Background: I have a 2011 carbon black bmw 550i. The paint is extremely soft. My previous wash method involved a foam cannon and two bucket method using sheepskin wash mitt, leaf blower then light waffle towel dry. Waffle weave was from pakshak and was visually free of debris and soft.



I noticed light marring in the direction of washing/drying. I switched from wash mitt to grout sponge and washed in the opposite direction. After inspection, I found new light marring in the new direction.



I now pre-rinse with a pressure washer and hose water, wash panel by panel using a grout sponge with ONR mixed with DI water, then pressure wash rinse using DI water. I then dry with leaf blower. I am not finding any new marring and really like this wash method. Its easy, not too time consuming and the only time I touch the paint is with a sopping ONR grout sponge.



Its about time to reapply sealant. The car was Zaino'd. I intend on using Klasse AIO as a prep and removal of the old LSP and then Blackfire sealant. My concern is MF inducing marring. I have contacted pakshak for recommendations and was told MF may leave some marring.



My question is can I apply Klasse AIO and remove it with an ONR wash with DI water and DI pressure washer rinse? Will this affect durability or appearance.



Same question for Blackfire, but I believe I read no water after Blackfire until it cures (12+hours) I wouldn't mind leaving the Blackfire on for a day and then washing with ONR and DI the next day if that would work.



Last question... How do you professionals maintain a car with extremely soft clear? You remove the marring by polishing only to create new marring with the application and removal of the LSP.



The marring isn't substantial, but due to the nature of this color, when the sun hits it, I notice it and it drives me nuts! Please help.
 
icall said:
My question is can I apply Klasse AIO and remove it with an ONR wash with DI water and DI pressure washer rinse?



NO. Once the KAIO dries/flashes off it can be a little challenging to buff off even *with* touching. I sure don't see your proposed approach working out, sorry. The ONR *might* work, but IMO you'll still need to do a fair amount of touching to get all the KAIO residue off.



Same question for Blackfire, but I believe I read no water after Blackfire until it cures (12+hours) I wouldn't mind leaving the Blackfire on for a day and then washing with ONR and DI the next day if that would work.



Same thing. The BF I've used (All Finish Paint Protection) comes off pretty easily, but it still requires touching. If you don't want to go with Zaino again (didn't that require touching? Didn't that work out OK?) then maybe you need to look into a wipe-on-walk away type LSP.

Last question... How do you ... maintain a car with extremely soft clear? You remove the marring by polishing only to create new marring with the application and removal of the LSP.



The marring isn't substantial, but due to the nature of this color, when the sun hits it, I notice it and it drives me nuts! Please help.



Honestly, I couldnt live with that paint. Simple as that; I've sold vehicles over far less frustrating issues :nixweiss
 
Some people swear by them, but I for one will never use a pressure washer on paint. Since your paint is so soft, it's quite possible the pressure washer in combination with a sponge is part of the resulting marring. I try to be as touch-free as possible when I wash. It involves multiples passes with my foam gun, rinsing with DI water, and blow drying/pat drying with only my softest WW MFs after spraying down a panel with QD to lube. When I must use agitation to get the paint clean, I still use my hand-picked sheepskin mitts that I have designated for specific sections of the car. Luckily, I mostly can get away with the practically touchless technique. It can be extreme, but I'm in the camp of not having to correct paint is better if I can avoid it.



KAIO should be use with a WOWO method. It's super easy that way.
 
Thanks for the response. As for the initial zaino, I believe there was marring induced by the application.



I have to do the wife's truck today anyway so I'll try appyi g AIO on the trunk, allowing it to dry then try to remove it with ONR, rinse and blow dry.
 
Just for the record, this didn't work. After two passes with a grout sponge and ONR, it looked good. I blew dryed it and still looked good. The sun hit the trunk and there were oily vertical marks in the direction of the AIO application.



It came off easy enought with some fresh AIO and a MF.
 
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