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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Dan E. [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Oh yeah, the passport has a HUGE advantage over the V1 on Instant-on Ka band. Very Deadly stuff.

Guess, check www.caranddriver.com and see if they have it at their site. [/b]</blockquote>
According to C&D the V1 had advantages over the Passport in every band(including Instant Ka) in every test except for rear laser although the V1 still had the widest rear field of view.

Check www.valentineone.com for his response to the radartest.com. I for one trust C&D more than I woudl that site.
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Jngrbrdman [/i]
<strong class='bbc'> Send a check but send it for 5 bucks over the amount owed. Their computers will process a refund check for $5 and untill you cash that check it won't be reported on your record. I know it works. It is exactly what I did in Idaho. I have a ticket for 110 in a 55 framed on my wall next to a refund check for 5 dollars. It was beautiful.[/b]</blockquote>
Thats a myth, it wont work, after a certain time the check is not valid anymore anyway even if not cashed and the points would go on your record. If your ticket was in another state would it transfer in the first place?

Here in NY all tickets in NY, NJ and CT count for points, but tickets in other states would just be fines, no points would transfer from their states to NY.
 
Well since I am cheap and have not read the mag yet which of you is right???? one says passport the other says V1????



Dayum time to go stand by the mag rack and read for myself..



I checked the site no info..wahhhhhhhhhh
 
I subscribe to a motorcycle magazine called Motorcycle Consumer News. They are like a consumer reports for motorcycles and they do NOT accept any advertising which eliminates a lot of bias. Their test results found that the V1 was always the first detector to pickup radar.



These results have been reconfirmed by groups of motorcycles travelling together with bike to bike communications. Some travelled with V1 and some with the Escort 8500. Although the 8500 is good the V1 consistently sniffed out radar first.
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Mr Hyde [/i]
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Thats a myth, it wont work, after a certain time the check is not valid anymore anyway even if not cashed and the points would go on your record. If your ticket was in another state would it transfer in the first place?

Here in NY all tickets in NY, NJ and CT count for points, but tickets in other states would just be fines, no points would transfer from their states to NY. [/b]</blockquote>
I know it works in Utah. I've done it. Maybe it doesn't work in all states but I think its worth the 5 bucks to see. I would only use that method if going to the city the ticket was issued in would be too far to go.

Usually the states surrounding a state will report tickets to your record. But if you get a ticket in Florida and you live in California, for example, then Florida isn't likely to report the ticket. You don't really even have to pay it. You'll just have a warrant for your arrest issued in Florida and if you get pulled over again then you'll be in trouble.
 
It seems to me that these radar detectors are getting to the same point computers have gotten to. The performance difference of Word on a 2 ghz P4 is pretty much the same as on a P4 1ghz. You won't notice a difference.



The performance of the Escort is so good, that even if the V1 is slightly better, it makes no difference in the end result. The passport is 100 bucks less, but the real reason I chose the Escort was that most reports say that there are fewer false alerts with the Escort while preserving the sensitivity for the real thing.



I keep the Escort in my Mustang and move it to the bimmer for long trips, but I really miss having it even for short hops around town in the bimmer. Besides, my wife is a Jr. Andretti....So I may just have to get another...probably the V1, just to satisfy my own curiosity to see if there is any big difference.



H
 
Got Car and Driver today and read the report. The V1 does seem to have a slightly higher sensitivity than the Escort, but they certainly did not put the Escort down. There were a few key areas where it did better than the V1. If only they could get together and make the "perfect" detector..... If I get another one I will try the V1. Right now I'm trying to switch 3 phones from Voicestream to AT&T. I have had it with Voicestream's customer service. I spend more time on the phone with them than I do here on the computer lately!!!! :down



H
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by bigboyhf [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Got Car and Driver today and read the report. The V1 does seem to have a slightly higher sensitivity than the Escort, but they certainly did not put the Escort down. There were a few key areas where it did better than the V1. If only they could get together and make the "perfect" detector..... If I get another one I will try the V1. Right now I'm trying to switch 3 phones from Voicestream to AT&T. I have had it with Voicestream's customer service. I spend more time on the phone with them than I do here on the computer lately!!!! :down

H [/b]</blockquote>
What kind of phone are you getting. I am getting ready to trade my Nokia 6160 for the 8390.
 
Thats a VoiceStream phone...it looks nice and has some nice features. I am looking at the Panasonic Alure. It has a speakerphone and is one of the coolest phones out there. But that is an AT&T phone. My son sells Cingular plans but has AT&T service with the Panasonic phone.... Go figure.



H
 
You admit that in public?????? :rolleyes: I won't say that every one there is bad, just that it takes a few hours and lots of patience to find that one shining star that understands the meaning of "customer service". Lets just say that every month since July, there have been errors on my bills. When I finally had it all straightened out, they send me a little note saying that the management would not stand behind the agreement that the customer service agent finally agreed to settle this issue. I did finally get what I wanted after sending them a copy of my contract which amazingly they could not find. I also mentioned a few little key words like the FCC, lawyer etc. Anyways, last month, just when I thought that they had finally gotten it right, they added $100 onto the cost of a replacement phone by "accident". That took another hour to solve. Apparently, there is NO way that you can ever speak to a supervisor at VoiceStream. I don't even think they exist. The only people who were ever able (willing) to help me were in the Disconnect department. I have spoken to many others with similar problems with VoiceStream. I never had a problem with Omnipoint but as soon as it was taken over I think they dropped the ball....



I have been a professional for 25 years. I know what it takes to make things right when all is not well. I practiced Podiatric Medicine and Foot surgery, and believe me, things don't always go right no matter how good you are or how hard you try. I don't care what doctor you refer to, things don't always go right whether it their fault or not. The key though is making that patient or person feel that you are going all out for them and that you are there for the problems as well as the good outcomes. It could make the difference between a lawsuit and a patient that will refer everyone in their family..... Nobody taught this to me. It was not offered in school. Either you have it or you don't. VoiceStream doesn't and I doubt they ever will. It seems to be policy to cause as much grief as possible.



Well....you asked! So that's that! BTW, I love a good, dry Vodka Martini....anyone you know?



H :bounce :bounce :bounce :bounce :bounce
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Mr Hyde [/i]
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According to C&D the V1 had advantages over the Passport in every band(including Instant Ka) in every test except for rear laser although the V1 still had the widest rear field of view.

Check www.valentineone.com for his response to the radartest.com. I for one trust C&D more than I woudl that site. [/b]</blockquote>
Look on page 75, The Ka-Band Range. The warning distance for the Escort can detect instant-on city Ka-band in 0.7 Miles, while the V1 can detect it in 0.1 Miles. Thats lower than the Bel 980, Whistler 1780, and about equal to the cobra XR-1050.
 
I will have to go and get the mag now...



With my V1 I get instant on alerts way before a tenth of a mile. Heck one night driving home I get a little beep...I slow...I look it is Ka..so I slow further.I keep driving...It goes off again a little higher reading now...I check my speed 69 ... cool I feel safe.



Then I see a car go under an overpass and BRAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP mine V1 goes nuts....about 10 secs later I go under the same overpass BRAPPPPPPPPPPPPPP and there is La states finest...I waved!!!



I will have to read this.... Off to the store!
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Guess My Name [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>I will have to go and get the mag now...

With my V1 I get instant on alerts way before a tenth of a mile. Heck one night driving home I get a little beep...I slow...I look it is Ka..so I slow further.I keep driving...It goes off again a little higher reading now...I check my speed 69 ... cool I feel safe.

Then I see a car go under an overpass and BRAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP mine V1 goes nuts....about 10 secs later I go under the same overpass BRAPPPPPPPPPPPPPP and there is La states finest...I waved!!!

I will have to read this.... Off to the store! [/b]</blockquote>
Hehe 69 mph, man i'm immature!
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by bigboyhf [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>You admit that in public?????? :rolleyes: I won't say that every one there is bad, just that it takes a few hours and lots of patience to find that one shining star that understands the meaning of "customer service". Lets just say that every month since July, there have been errors on my bills. When I finally had it all straightened out, they send me a little note saying that the management would not stand behind the agreement that the customer service agent finally agreed to settle this issue. I did finally get what I wanted after sending them a copy of my contract which amazingly they could not find. I also mentioned a few little key words like the FCC, lawyer etc. Anyways, last month, just when I thought that they had finally gotten it right, they added $100 onto the cost of a replacement phone by "accident". That took another hour to solve. Apparently, there is NO way that you can ever speak to a supervisor at VoiceStream. I don't even think they exist. The only people who were ever able (willing) to help me were in the Disconnect department. I have spoken to many others with similar problems with VoiceStream. I never had a problem with Omnipoint but as soon as it was taken over I think they dropped the ball....

I have been a professional for 25 years. I know what it takes to make things right when all is not well. I practiced Podiatric Medicine and Foot surgery, and believe me, things don't always go right no matter how good you are or how hard you try. I don't care what doctor you refer to, things don't always go right whether it their fault or not. The key though is making that patient or person feel that you are going all out for them and that you are there for the problems as well as the good outcomes. It could make the difference between a lawsuit and a patient that will refer everyone in their family..... Nobody taught this to me. It was not offered in school. Either you have it or you don't. VoiceStream doesn't and I doubt they ever will. It seems to be policy to cause as much grief as possible.

Well....you asked! So that's that! BTW, I love a good, dry Vodka Martini....anyone you know?

H :bounce :bounce :bounce :bounce :bounce [/b]</blockquote>
I work in a for a company that has several projects and Voicestream was one of them. Voicestream is incredibly flaky and they pulled the project before their contract was up. We had to lay off over 900 people. I know what you are talking about when you vent about your bills. That was the main problem we were having with them. Our center handled a majority of the customer service calls and chances are that you were talking to someone here when you called them. They are stupid. We absorbed a bunch of the Voicestream people into Sprint PCS and I had to fire them as quickly as they came. There are problems with that company. It is worth it to pay more if you don't have to deal with incompotence IMO.
 
All right I went and got the CD mag...



Valentine in city mode is weak but not in highway mode which is all I use anyway.



All city mode does on detectors is not tell you about weak signals since a detector cannot distinguish between a door opener and a radar gun.



I have more reading to do of course from this mag...nice cover pic BTW!!
 
I think owning either the V1 or the Escort and you have cut your chances of getting snagged by 95 to 98%. Neither is fool proof, and both are more than adequate. One is cheaper and one is slightly higher sensitivity.



H
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Guess My Name [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>All right I went and got the CD mag...

Valentine in city mode is weak but not in highway mode which is all I use anyway.

All city mode does on detectors is not tell you about weak signals since a detector cannot distinguish between a door opener and a radar gun.

I have more reading to do of course from this mag...nice cover pic BTW!! [/b]</blockquote>
Love the cover too! Cool looking GT40!
 
In my boredum while it was raining I went to the Valentine site...Guess what my year old Detector is outdated from them...Wahhh



Good news is it can be upgraded...Reasons better laser detection, better Ka band detection, slimmer case, and lighter..



Now the question I ask my self..



"Self do you spring for a new one and hand the old one down to the GF or upgrade for the half price and the Gf gets nada????"



Hmmmmmm I gonna think about that one........OK I get another new one for me.



Valentine did update the site a bit you have to look real hard but it is there.
 
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