I went mad today and mixed Klasse SG into my wash water

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Corey Bit Spank

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:scared: So I found this old sample I had laying around of SG. And then my old Blackfire shampoo. And then some eagle one quick detailer. So....I pondered the possibilities.



So I just mixed it all together, because you see my car hasn't been completely detailed in awhile, nor waxed in awhile, so it needed some spunk.



And then I said well goodness if this doesn't work out well I want to at least have a clean car without marring so I put a capful of QEW in, even though I was washing regularly. I remembered that Blackfire "gloss ehancing shampoo" was never my favorite car wash.....



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So yeah maybe I went crazy with taking pictures. Oh, the Neon. Uhm, I haven't even touched the car other than washing. My mom detailed it after she bought it, but I really haven't had much time lately.



Conclusion: I don't think SG does much good or harm in wash water, and with it being so expensive I wouldn't make it a habit.
 
You know, though, I have been putting Wolfgang sealant in my wash water for a few weeks now and it really does work well.



When my car isn't that dirty, of course.
 
Corey Bit Spank said:
You know, though, I have been putting Wolfgang sealant in my wash water for a few weeks now and it really does work well.



When my car isn't that dirty, of course.
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Gheesh...I've seen a couple threads now that mentioned something about mixing sealants in with wash water as well as QDs, but I've never seen a whole bunch of dialog. This concept intrigues me...



So, since my fav is untopped UPP, I suppose I could put some UPP in my 4* auto wash and/or mix with my UGE? How much do you guys mix in the wash and in the QD?



Thanks!
 
I use the NXT Spray Booster Wax in my wash water, as well as my 2nd pail of sponge rinse water, and I find that it helps the sponge glide over the car even better than with just the P21S Bodywork Shampoo that I use. I highly recommend this technique. I use roughly 6 full sprays of the NXT Booster Wax, and I have been very impressed.



Just thougt I would add my findings as this improved the look of my BMW prior to the RMG and OCW that I apply as finish coats.



~Darren
 
I would use a sealant you don't care for. I just never really saw a purpose for Wolfgang. And EX-P, the old formula. Hey I haven't put that in wash water yet.



I wouldn't put something I really like or paid good money for in wash water, because the affect is similar to quick detailing after a wash. And quick detailers are much cheaper than these sealants.



I've just been too cheap to buy more FX synwax Spraywax, so this makes up for it. Otherwise I wouldn't bother. The coverage is spotty. Black trim can turn white over time.



Really, I only do it because I'm tighter than skin on a weiner when it comes to money right now.
 
Reminds me of when I was a kid and would sit on the kitchen floor, mixing anything I could in a glass bowl -- vinegar, allspice, garlic, cinnamon sticks, brown sugar, corn starch -- you name it. It would always end up being a brown, smelly mess. Anyone else?



Car looks nice btw.
 
Corey, what the heck are you doing man? If you're trying to conserve I don't think I'd be blowing SG on wash water. The car does look good though! It was actually warm enough to wash today? I wanted to do it but it was freezing here today and windy.



Maybe we'd better take up a collection so you can get some new FX. :LOLOL



Paul
 
I have tried to put some of my sealant range into a small sample bottle plus top it up with 1z perls, four star or DP and the sealants and even waxes prevent the shampoo from sudsing

However adding a glob of it to already filled bucket of shampoo sounds interesting.



I'm thinking of making up a spray version of Klasse SG.

If you want a good wash combo, put half each of 1Z perls and 4 star ultimate shampoo in a bottle and pour 30-40 ml of it into a bucket and fill with purified water, springwater may suffice
 
It was maybe 50ml. And I don't have AIO, and in my experience SG is kind of like Turtle Wax on bad paint when it comes to durability over the top of.........non-AIO stuff.



And it was cold but I don't have too much time anymore, so I detail when I get a chance regardless of weather.



Oh, and SG didn't ruin the suds. I don't really mind that much. WG ruins all of the sudsing, but then again what good to suds do anyway.



I could imagine that mixing SG with water ruins all of the good durability characteristics. I really prefer WG for adding to water. Mainly because it is so slick, and I never expected it to be durable under normal application, so it just makes the paint slicker and better for a week. Kind of like the typical WG....................... :nervous:
 
docker said:
So, since my fav is untopped UPP, I suppose I could put some UPP in my 4* auto wash and/or mix with my UGE?
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I wouldn't mix it with the wash water as UPP and water do *NOT* play well together. You could get some really nasty spotting if it didn't work out.
 
Accumulator said:
I wouldn't mix it with the wash water as UPP and water do *NOT* play well together. You could get some really nasty spotting if it didn't work out.
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Is WG different? I was kinda following the idea that the earlier poster had...
 
SilverStallion said:
I use the NXT Spray Booster Wax in my wash water, as well as my 2nd pail of sponge rinse water ...
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Finally! A use for the NXT Spray Wax!



Until now I thought its only purpose was to create a fine white dust and pinpoint spots on my windows.
 
AIO has been mentioned as useful as a shampoo, but my bottle doesn't say anything about that. It does reference a "Users Manual" that I've never seen. Has anyone actually seen one? I seem to recall that it could be mixed as a shampoo (not sudsy), a QD, a booster, and as a polish/LSP. Can't remember the ratios, though.
 
You ever try to put wax in the wash bucket? I did a long while ago with some Mothers carnauba cleaner wax and the finish was much like a wax as you dry product, next wash beaded suprising good. Now that I think of it, I think I'm going to start doing this more often.
 
Dumping these chemicals in your wash water effectively renders your wash shampoo useless. The cleaning agents think the sealant particles are soil and go after them. The result is little cleaning action (or suds!) remaining to clean. Plus, none of the chemicals you're using were meant to be strictly a water-based system. They may gloss up your paint, but so will adding an ounce of olive oil.
 
BigLeegr said:
...my bottle doesn't say anything about that.
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Ha! I think the vast majority of stuff you learn here is the result of trial & error, tweaking and fine-tuning, and won't be listed in any manuals, guides or even recommended by the manufacturer. That's what I think is neat about these message forums - we get to learn from the gurus and benefit from their playing with different mixes, combinations, etc... :clap:



These guys are pushing the envelope... :woot:
 
DavidB said:
Dumping these chemicals in your wash water effectively renders your wash shampoo useless. The cleaning agents think the sealant particles are soil and go after them. The result is little cleaning action (or suds!) remaining to clean. Plus, none of the chemicals you're using were meant to be strictly a water-based system. They may gloss up your paint, but so will adding an ounce of olive oil.
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True, true, now that I think about it your right, suds were reduced. Thats probably why I havent done it since. Still worked good, probably more of a thing for light dust though.
 
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