I just ordered Vintage

I'd do a review of Vintage, but it seems like everything that can be said about it has been said. If you guys have any specific questions let me know. Harry, I know you've used Concorso, so I can compare it directly to that.
 
Picus said:
I'd do a review of Vintage, but it seems like everything that can be said about it has been said. If you guys have any specific questions let me know. Harry, I know you've used Concorso, so I can compare it directly to that.



sweet picus I always told you I appreciate how much data you have input on this product,

the reason why I am asking cal is because he is a regualr user who is going to use

it on his car more than customers.



1- So here is few questions to you, Swissvax Concorso give a great depth of color, look

at this picture of my car; How is vintage going to give me a difference in looks from

those pictures, in other words what would make me say wow now that is different?



Swissvax Concorso;

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2-What Qd to use while drying so in that it won't damage the looks or the durability

of Vintage? Do I use Zymol QD? I heard it will streak if used while drying, as it should

be used on a dry car.



3-What car soap would not touch the looks or durability of vintage?



4-Any alternatives to apply it by hand?

the way I do Swissvax-Concorso is worm at first a quarter size amount with my hands

and then apply to a panel and use a foam yellow applicator or the provided by swissvax one "black one with 2 sides" to spread the concorso around for an even coat,

can this be used with vintage?



Thats all I want to know and I think that what most people also want to know who are

interested in vintage besides Accumulator :think2



Edit: ops forgot a last important one, how long will vintage last applied correctly

and QD'ed and washed also correctly?
 
Harry Houdini said:
sweet picus I always told you I appreciate how much data you have input on this product,

the reason why I am asking cal is because he is a regualr user who is going to use

it on his car more than customers.



1- So here is few questions to you, Swissvax Concorso give a great depth of color, look

at this picture of my car; How is vintage going to give me a difference in looks from

those pictures, in other words what would make me say wow now that is different?



Swissvax Concorso;

Picture064.jpg


Picture068.jpg




2-What Qd to use while drying so in that it won't damage the looks or the durability

of Vintage? Do I use Zymol QD? I heard it will streak if used while drying, as it should

be used on a dry car.



3-What car soap would not touch the looks or durability of vintage?



4-Any alternatives to apply it by hand?

the way I do Swissvax-Concorso is worm at first a quarter size amount with my hands

and then apply to a panel and use a foam yellow applicator or the provided by swissvax one "black one with 2 sides" to spread the concorso around for an even coat,

can this be used with vintage?



Thats all I want to know and I think that what most people also want to know who are

interested in vintage besides Accumulator :think2



Edit: ops forgot a last important one, how long will vintage last applied correctly

and QD'ed and washed also correctly?



I am only using this on my cars, not customer cars.



I find Vintage looks more like Mystery and Concorso than Concours and Destiny; weird I know, but that's how I see it. It offers exceptional clarity, like Concorso but even moreso. It does not distort reflections like Concours or Destiny. Of course it darkens color, but no more than other good waxes. What you do get is an intense depth; it's like getting that dynamic look you get from Concours/Destiny and the clarity and depth of Concorso; I find (as stupid as this sounds) that I am always running my eyes over the car finding something new to look at. Of course is it a night and day difference? No, but it's there.



I use Field Glaze or Quick Finish (Swissvax), you can also use Crystal Mist or even Poorboys QW; none of them change the look imo. I prefer Quick Finish overall.



Well any of the zymol/swissvax soap will work, so will p21s soap. That's what I use with it.



Vintage isn't as grainy as Concorso, so yes that will work. I apply by hand, but Vintage can easily be melted then put on a foam pad, even more easily than Concorso.



A long time. On the one customer car I put it on in spring (from my sample), 3 months later it was fully slick, looked the same, cleaned well, beaded the same. I washed with deep crystal then did crystal mist, and it still looked great in September. In September I washed with ONR and used quick finish. We'll see if it makes it through the winter.



On my car I will apply two or three coats over two or three weeks, then wash with p21s via foam gun, and maintain with quick finish. I expect I will not need to put more vintage on for 6 months (though I might! :) )
 
1. I cannot compare it to concourso as i have not used it, however it does deapen the paint. It has what you would expect from a nuba. It addes depth. I have grey paint and it looks miles deep. I wanted to walk into it :D



2.I dont use a qd while drying however anyone will work. I really like the vw QD, it dosent streak or smear. I have also never used the zymol qd, pehraps il try it one day



3. I will be using onr to wash it, I have used onr with titanium and it has not effected the durabilty.

I also knwo that the zymol clear works well with any zymol wax. They say the montana oil in it adds the shine back to the wax. Almost like a touch up.

ttianum (and vintage appears to be the same) cleans up really well. You almost dont need to use soap. I quick wash with a presure washer seams to get all the bugs and dirt off.

Zymol waxes do not take alot to get clean, I have never experience a wax that is so easy to clean up.



4. I apply it by hand, however i have heard of use an applictor. The guy holds the foam applicator to a halagoen light that he uses for buffing. he then applys the wax to the warm applitor, holds it in front of the light for a few more seconds. He then applys the wax.

I have never done it so dont ask me if it really works



I dont knwo long vintage will last, superbee said it alster over 6 months on his wifes car. So from the sounds of it a while.



Titanium, which is not suppsoted to last as long lasts forever. I have it o a freinds truck. I applied it 5 weeks ago (the truck is washed every 2-3 days) and it is still as strong as day one.



Zymol waxes last forever. some will argue with me on this but I attribute it to the high carnuba content. It seems to really add to the longevity of the wax
 
baseballlover1 said:
SAMMEE i am extremely interested in all of the aspects of this product. If i found that it was worth the money ide start saving right now. But if its just a little better then i would rather spend it on something else. Also i have titanium wax and its really hard to apply (the by hand method). I hope im not doing it wrong.





it blows titanium out of the water. I have tried both (I have about 1 application left of titanium) and vintage looks better... ok ok, I just put it on today but it looks awsome. Plus I have heard it ages well.



hand application takes some getting used to.i wasted alot of zymol concour, titanium and vc concours applying by hand, after a few application it will get easier.



is vintage worth the money? well im so happy with 1 application I say yeas. I dont car if it lasts 4 weeks and i have to reapply (which i know it wont, i have heard 6months plus) its worth it.

It may not be worth it to someone else. but after trying it im glad I bought it.





Its very similar to zymol concours (not the same but very close). concours does not come with refills but its also a 10th the price. Try concours. If you like it then I would say take the step up to vintage....



ohh yeah, i also know your a young guy so there is plenty of time to get the refills, keep that in mind...



and the best part, you actully get a card for an alligance club.. crazy i know.





ok im not trying to sell you vintage (although it may be miscontrude that way). I say this stuff from past pm's and posts.



but yeah i would say try concours first and see how much you like that
 
Well... i respect your opinions along with a few other guys on here that love it. It seems like everyone who owns it loves it and just a few people don't think it could make that much of a difference do they don't bother looking at it. I think what i'm going to do it just start saving and in a few year maybe i'le own one.
 
Thanks calgarydetail

Picus, another great thread thanks for the info!

I have 2 bottles of Swissvax Quick finish, I got to tell you I am having a hard time finishing

1 bottle of it, the mist is so fine that after using it for over 3 months weekly I did not even finish half the bottle!



never tried this, but can quick finish be used on a wet surface to aid in drying?

I know I had a hard time with it with streaking when I first got it but I learned that

I need 2 towels, 1 to apply the quick finish and spread, the other is to follow up quickly

before it dries.



I will be ordering vintage next this in the morning after calling them by phone and

placing the order! pictures to come I promise! :)
 
Harry Houdini said:
Thanks calgarydetail

Picus, another great thread thanks for the info!

I have 2 bottles of Swissvax Quick finish, I got to tell you I am having a hard time finishing

1 bottle of it, the mist is so fine that after using it for over 3 months weekly I did not even finish half the bottle!



never tried this, but can quick finish be used on a wet surface to aid in drying?

I know I had a hard time with it with streaking when I first got it but I learned that

I need 2 towels, 1 to apply the quick finish and spread, the other is to follow up quickly

before it dries.



I will be ordering vintage next this in the morning after calling them by phone and

placing the order! pictures to come I promise! :)





did we get another one? man we should get a commision :bigups



call them and see if you can get the 10% discount. Its worth a shot. I cannot garuntee it but the worst that will ahppen is they will say no
 
I havent used cf on a wet finish. Honestly, I have no problem drying my car with one good mf ww, so I just dry it then do whatever it is I am going to do.



I agree on how little you need to use. I have one of the larger bottles and I haven't even put a dent in it yet.



FWIW, I am not trying to promote vintage, it's a big investment and not for everyone. For me I think it will be well worth the money, but everyone goes about this sort of thing differently.
 
Picus said:
FWIW, I am not trying to promote vintage, it's a big investment and not for everyone. For me I think it will be well worth the money, but everyone goes about this sort of thing differently.



that is a very good point, its diffrent for everyone. I know my reasoning was diffrent then others... but like everything in detailing its all personal. some will like it others wont.. thats just life
 
^ Both well said. Hey calgary I was wondering if you can do me a favor and whenever you do wash it get some bead shots. If you dont thats cool but some of the beading shots I've seen are ridiculous.
 
series1 said:
^ Both well said. Hey calgary I was wondering if you can do me a favor and whenever you do wash it get some bead shots. If you dont thats cool but some of the beading shots I've seen are ridiculous.

i already have some. It was snowing when it was done so i decided to spray it down to see the beads... they are cool. When i get home and can upload them i will post them.



the coolest part is after 5 min of driving the car was bone dry.. nothig stuck to it
 
here is the review



Product: Zymol Vintage



Price: $1900





Size: 22oz per jar, with free refills



Price per oz: hard to determine because its refillable



Container: It’s a large container. It’s clear plastic block shaped with facet edges, almost like a large square diamond. It has a flip top that is easily opened and closed. My only problem is the container is larger than it needs to be adding to the shipping cost.

Application directions: There are no directions on the vintage, it is assumed you have used zymol products before, or have talked to the staff at zymol. I checked the website.

(Welcome to Zymol Worldwide)



How I used: I started by washing my car with top of the line bubble bath. I then dried. I followed this by a polish with menzerna nano polish and a meg’s polishing pad.

Once this was all wiped away it was time to wax. I placed a small amount (about half the size of a dime) in the palm of my hands, I rubbed my hands tighter to melt the wax.

I ten started on the hood and wiped the wax onto the paint, making sure to get even coverage. I waxed the whole car (with the help of a friend). After we had waxed the whole car we started to wipe off the wax.

We started by doing a quick buff, we got most of the wax off however there was still some oil and wax left on the paint. We did not try to get this off. Once the whole car was done we went back and did a final buff. This was to get everything else off the paint. This final buff made the paint glow.

Application info: Application is hard at the begging, waxing with vintage is a little different then concours because of the texture of the wax.



Removal: Removal was a little bit though, it was no different then other waxes that are applied by hand. The thinner you apply the wax the easier is to get off.

Texture: It was the texture of a hard wax. Very similar to sovergen, maybe a little softer. It had small granules but not as many as I thought, the wax was smoother then I had expected.

Once the wax was melted in the palms it was smooth as butter, no granules, just smooth wax.



Smell: I could not put my finger on this. The smell was not very strong, but as you waxed you got a slight whiff of it. It was very pleasant. It was almost like a sweet sugar cookie kind of smell. Perhaps someone will be able to tune in and help me out.

Look: The wax was an off white wax. Nothing special



Durability: Cannot comment, has not been on my paint long enough to know. However I have heard 6 months.

Looks: the paint was stunning; it darkened it slightly like most waxes do but nothing major. I was however impressed with how clear the wax was. Lots of waxes slightly distort the paint, almost enhancing the orange peel. With vintage it was clear, it did not have this effect. I was very pleased with this. The car had a carnauba glow, almost like an aura was around the car. It was fantastic. I am not very good at writing what I am thinking, so I cannot find the words to describe how amazing the paint looked.



Final thoughts: I am in love. I was very impressed with this wax. It took the paint to the next level. I have been very impressed with concours, this took it even higher.

Although there is a large investment and vintage is not for everyone I am very happy I bought it. I was everything I wanted and more. It’s hard to explain but I think the best way to put it is I do not regret spending 2,000 on a wax, and would do it again.

This wax is not for everyone, so it may not be right for you. It is for me.



Comments or questions, good or bad would be greatly appreciated.



Thanks for reading
 
Just a tip calgary, i saw in the video of you applying the titanium that you removed it instantly rather than letting it stand for a few minutes.



I think if you let vintage stand for a while, you will like the results, give it a try next time you use it.
 
ron231 said:
Just a tip calgary, i saw in the video of you applying the titanium that you removed it instantly rather than letting it stand for a few minutes.



I think if you let vintage stand for a while, you will like the results, give it a try next time you use it.

that was with titanium, i let vintage sit as long as ti look to do th rest of the car, which was arounf 5 min. I did not remove it right away like with titanium... but thanks for the tip
 
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