Hi-Temp Extreme Cut

Maybe a can of worms, lets see!



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This might be another thread but here goes:



How many of the "click and brags" do you think are defect free? Myself included, i have shown pics that are not defect free. A vast improvement, yes. But to bring an abused car back, takes time and skill, which most are paid for. And scratches are scratches, to remove them is clear coat roulette.



Myself, on most defects, is the 5 foot rule.



Round them off, you can't see them*
 
salty- as long as somebody doesn't say "this is a *perfect* finish" when showing something that still has defects, I assume they took it as far as they considered wise, and I'm willing to defer to their decision. Yeah, I sometimes think "I woulda gone a bit farther on that one.." but hey, it's easy for me to talk; I wasn't the guy taking the chances :D



I myself stop when I'm genuinely concerned about the clear, but if that means I have to subscribe to the 5' rule for marring that's an inch long, I'm mighty displeased (IMO some little stuff is inevitable, just got another too-deep one on the S8 during a trip).



I dunno if the next owner will be able to polish the M3 any more, but I'm gambling that *I* won't have to, so I'm getting pretty extreme on it (oughta have an ETG for that job :o ). If I go too far I'll get the panel reshot...there's some stuff I just won't live with and I figure I don't have anything to lose by really going at it. But I sure don't think I'd be doing that on somebody else's car ;)
 
You know, I detail for folks that are far more tolerant of minor swirls than I am. I'd say we're the extreme, and it's tough some times to just let it go cause I like to treat every car I do like it was my own - but if the customer is happy, that's ok.
 
I think a lot of new people to this site, think that clear is an inch thick, and it should be defect free when they are done polishing.



Personally i do not wetsand or cut polish anywhere as deep as i did 5 years ago. Rounding off is a faster safer way to go. Personal cars are different.
 
That's a great point, I've gone behind another "detailer" and the poor owners' car had clear coat missing in several places. All I could do was wash it and clean the interior. I had to tell the owner that somebody buffed off the clear and I could not "fix" that. I explained my methods and how I always try to just polish and not compound unless, 1 never been buffed, 2 really needs it and 3 ok with owner - as he realizes that some clear will be removed. Well, I got his business and now I do his mother's car and his wife's too. That car that was damaged? He sold it!
 
Yeah...and IMO too many people forget that it's not just a matter of running out of clear; you can't take off more than a fraction of it (rule-of-thumb is..uhm...I'm having a brain-pause :o but it's not much, maybe half a mil) before you lose the UV protection and precipitate early failure.
 
On this note, what do you guys prescribe in terms of a glaze?



-- I've come to a point in my life (Though I'm only 18 this year):o where I just can no longer care for my parent's cars the way I'd like to; Read: Swirl-free.



My parent's cars always look the best when it's overcast due to the impeccible cleanliness and nice metallic pop from IW845 + Aquawax, but I don't think I've polished either with more than Menzerna FPII on a blue-edge-pad since I started detailing last year. I've practiced the rotary a few times on my mom's car, but I just can no longer justify keeping the personal cars in mint-shape when they're constantly being dinged up at the parkinglots at work. To be 100% honest, I can't even 'see' the visual difference between a polished/waxed car, and a clean-but-negleted car from afar. I know that my brain makes me see the differences because I spent the time and money, but even then, the differences are minute for me. I just buy what you guys say looks great, cause I sure as heck would be broke if I had to try them myself! Big thanks Autopia!



Instead of slaving over ever minor swirl (and a lot that have become no so-minor since), I've taken a step back to really enjoy the places that the car takes me to with friends and family.



I no longer care whether or not someone has a swirl-free finish in the same parking lot, because mine looks just as good in overcast skies, and hope that I can attain the same via a glaze, and a LOT of time saved!



Thanks again autopia! :bigups



I currently own Clearkote's RMG in my arsenal, and via PC + Blue-edge pad @4, I have not noticed 'remarkable' filling capabilities.. Am I using the product wrong?

-- Can you please recommend me a better filling product that will fill-in more swirls then RMG?
 
BMWWW- Your current prioritizing sounds very sensible to me :xyxthumbs



I always wonder if any glaze will really work all that well...but I hear One Grand's Omega does a lot of concealing.



When I was doing cars for family members/friends who didn't care about perfection, I just used stuff like 1Z Metallic Polish topped with Collinite 476S. It hid a bit of stuff and they stayed "waxed" for a long time.



The 1Z MP is *so* user-friendly it almost rivals Meg's #5 (which is also a glaze, and is about as user-friendly as products get), so it's not a PIA to use it now and then. MUCH easier IMO than the FP, no comparison.



The 476S hides a bit more than the 845 does, and while it doesn't look quite as nice (at least until after a wash or two) it lasts a lot longer for me.
 
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