Hi-Temp Extreme Cut

JuneBug said:
Accumulator, were you saying cleaning up after HiTemp wasn't an issue?
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Yeah, as Bence said, it cleans up easily (I bet I would've remembered if it were a tough clean up).



toyotaguy said:
..[H-T EC] finishes off almost wax ready, but I usually throw on a light polish before waxing..
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I don't get that nice a finish out of it, but perhaps it's because I'm usually using it straight :nixweiss But then I'm still into the multiple-polishing-steps approach where I decrease the aggressiveness quite gradually (I know many are getting to where they only use two products these days, even for severe correction).



langman37- TOL does that from time to time (IIRC they've also called it "44 magum" and they called the milder Heavy Cut "357 magnum"). Go by the product number (IIRC the H-T EC is 420).
 
Accumulator said:
Yeah, as Bence said, it cleans up easily (I bet I would've remembered if it were a tough clean up).







I don't get that nice a finish out of it, but perhaps it's because I'm usually using it straight :nixweiss But then I'm still into the multiple-polishing-steps approach where I decrease the aggressiveness quite gradually (I know many are getting to where they only use two products these days, even for severe correction).



langman37- TOL does that from time to time (IIRC they've also called it "44 magum" and they called the milder Heavy Cut "357 magnum"). Go by the product number (IIRC the H-T EC is 420).
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Thanks buddy for clearing that up:)
 
SuperBee364 said:
Bence, are you cutting the HTEC with OP, or using it straight?
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I use it straight most of the time. It can be sensitive to hidden impurities & buildup, so it is better to clean up the body panel REALLY well (Prepsol, but at least IPA or straight APC).



Use very little (first I tended to overapply it), and you'll be surprised as it melts the defects away. It is very gentle with no harsh grit in it. The abrasives are very finely milled, so it is absolutely lotion-like between your fingers, but highly effective.
 
Bence said:
I use it straight most of the time. It can be sensitive to hidden impurities & buildup, so it is better to clean up the body panel REALLY well (Prepsol, but at least IPA or straight APC).



Use very little (first I tended to overapply it), and you'll be surprised as it melts the defects away. It is very gentle with no harsh grit in it. The abrasives are very finely milled, so it is absolutely lotion-like between your fingers, but highly effective.
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Great info, Bence, thanks! :)
 
Bence said:
Use very little (first I tended to overapply it), and you'll be surprised as it melts the defects away...
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I too tended to use a lot more than necessary at first, probably still do :o



How do *you* find it on hard clear (e.g., I'm thinking of my E36 M3)? I sometimes wish it were a bit more aggressive as it takes me *forever* to correct that paint. I've yet to try it on the Audis though...
 
Accumulator said:
I too tended to use a lot more than necessary at first, probably still do :o



How do *you* find it on hard clear (e.g., I'm thinking of my E36 M3)? I sometimes wish it were a bit more aggressive as it takes me *forever* to correct that paint. I've yet to try it on the Audis though...
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Accumulator, in my experience it works extremely well on hard clears, but I use it primarily with my 13.5 cm Menzerna and Scholl Concepts wools.



I've had a difficult challenge once on an extremely hard repainted Yaris, where I used it with a 17.5 cm light cutting foam pad (didn't have wool at hand). That combo was terribly slow - big contact area, relatively mild pad and the lotion structure which doesn't give a good initial bite, unlike for example the 1Z PI or Extra. I had to spin the rotary to 2300-2500 with heavy pressure to remove the defects...
 
Bence- Thanks for the info. Yeah, I really do need to try wool pads some time. Sounds like your H-T EC/foam experience with the Yaris is similar to what I'm experiencing on the M3, even though you were using a larger pad. I too cranked up the speed in a few areas just to keep the time expenditure reasonable.



I do so little serious correction that I a) forget how trying it can be and b) keep telling myself I don't need wool pads. Then I run across the odd, hard job and wish I'd picked up the wool pads after all.
 
A couple years ago i used it on a black Jetta with dog scratches on the hood. Used with a foam cut and rotary. I wetsanded a few of the deeper ones and went to town with the foam on the rest. The combo did have a hard time removing the defects. I settled on the 5 foot look as some were too deep to remove without clear failure. I remember it cause an enormous amount of heat on this car. I did have a wool cut at the time, but too heavy for clear coat. I would have liked to give it a go with my wool polish, now.
 
CleanFreak2 said:
Where is the best place to purchase Hi Temp products?
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I'm fortunate. For me, the best place is just a fifteen minute drive from my house. Hi-Temp is located here in Omaha, and they have a small storefront where I can walk in and buy anything they manufacture, along with a selection of pads, MF towels, sprayers, bottles, etc.



For those of you not privileged enough (heh) to live in Omaha, I think Top of the Line is going to be your best bet.



Tort
 
HTEC and HTHC are about as different as they come for a moderate cut and a heavy cut compound. I use HTHC *all* the time via an orange pad for almost all moderate to heacy removal. I use HTEC less, but relatively regularly via orange/yellow or wool. Honestly, I don't use wool often and find HTEC via an orange or yellow to be more than enough to take out almost any defect on any paint given the right speed. I used to cut it, but don't anymore. I use it in small amount is spot sections as needed, it's almost as powerful as Power Gloss, so it doesn't normally require use over the entire car.



I'd say it is my favorite heavy cut product, with PG being a close second. Remember though, they are 9 or 10 out of 10's, on most paint I can get away with HTHC.
 
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