HD CUT Product Testers MASTER THREAD

Alfisti said:
I know this is a pain to ask but could reviewers PLEASE give competitors ratings in their review?



If you give a 3/5 for HD CUT is may sound negative/positive depending on the competition.



For example, if you give 3/5 for "ease of use" it may sound a bit disappointing. But if you also benchmark it to M105 and give M105 a 1/5, then we know Cut is far superior.



Even if it means going in and editing your threads, please do this. Or I'll come over and slash your tyres! :bat :laugh: :laugh:
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Done. My tires are safe!
 
I apologize for not posting my thoughts a while back, I honestly forgot until I was cleaning up today and moved my Cut bottle. This is not a comprehensive review because I haven't had the ability to do full testing like I did with HD Polish before posting a review. Due to the cold weather here in WV I haven't attempted detailing much. Regarding the list:



Cut 4.5 - Cut is close to M105 using a Meguiar's mf cutting disc on speed 4 using a GG 6". The working time is longer, similar to M101. No problems removing 2000 or 3000 grit sanding marks.



Ease of use 5 - This stuff is super simple just like HD Polish



Dusting 5 - Assuming 5 means no dusting



Work time 5 - This stuff has a long working time but doesn't leave the surface saturated in oils like Menzerna does.



Removal from surface 5 - I haven't experienced the sticky removal yet, plus it doesn't leave the surface like Menzerna as noted above



Finish after use 4 - I will revisit this once I dial in this product. It left the paint needing slight refinement but could be due to technique



Flexibility with various machines - N/A for me, I only have D/A's at this time due to selling my rotary. Will revisit.



Price 4 - Slightly more than M105 but less than M101, all based on retail pricing.



Smell 5 - Even though it lacks any fruity fragrance, it doesn't smell like pure chemicals or have a foul odor. Easy to work with.



Labeling 5 - Very clean and make good use of the label space.



Thanks for giving me the opportunity to use this product Tunch and David. I will continue to use this with different paints, pads, and working conditions to provide a better review at a later date.
 
Did us Richards get the updated version that solved the difficulty to remove problem? It seems we are the only reviewers that didn't see the problem with removing the product.
 
Richard please share with us exactely how you used cut. I tried it again today and had to use Opti-clean to remove it. I have tried alot of product a little product and the recommended amount. Also changed pressure work time pad and machine and it is still a pain to remove
 
keep_it_clean said:
Richard please share with us exactely how you used cut. I tried it again today and had to use Opti-clean to remove it. I have tried alot of product a little product and the recommended amount. Also changed pressure work time pad and machine and it is still a pain to remove
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Which Richard? If me, I lightly prime the pad and then put a few more drops of product on it, start on low speed to spread on the surface, then work for a few horizontal/vertical passes with about a medium pressure, like I would for most any other compound and then wipe it off. I usually work about a 1.5' x 1.5' area or thereabout. I have no issues wiping it off like many have had. The formula was changed to fix the problem and I wonder if some reviewers got the old formula and some like me and the other Richard (Wright) got the improved formula. The old formula, from what people are saying, no matter how you work it, it doesn't wipe off. But the new formula, no problems.
 
Richard Grasa said:
Which Richard? If me, I lightly prime the pad and then put a few more drops of product on it, start on low speed to spread on the surface, then work for a few horizontal/vertical passes with about a medium pressure, like I would for most any other compound and then wipe it off. I usually work about a 1.5' x 1.5' area or thereabout. I have no issues wiping it off like many have had. The formula was changed to fix the problem and I wonder if some reviewers got the old formula and some like me and the other Richard (Wright) got the improved formula. The old formula, from what people are saying, no matter how you work it, it doesn't wipe off. But the new formula, no problems.
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When did you order it? or was it a sample?
 
NotQuiteAPro said:
When did you order it? or was it a sample?
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I was one of the reviewers David picked (I'm listed as ExplicitDetails in the list of reviewers in this thread, was my old forum name). So I received mine the same time the reviewers that were having the sticking problems did.
 
Update - hey guys, this update has been long overdue, but with traveling, my day job & having the flu I have been challenged to give you this report.



With the initial batch of HD CUT, some people reported removal issues. This was immediately diagnosed and corrected. Very few bottles made it out to the retail market. Tunch is very adamant about insuring that all of his products work to the best of their abilities. HD CUT should remove from the finish with little to no effort. Similar to HD UNO, Speed, Polish, POXY & NITRO SEAL.



*EVERYONE who was given HD CUT to test will be sent a new bottle.

*ANYONE who has purchased a bottle of HD CUT and has been experiencing removal issues will be given a new bottle. (please PM me)



Please forgive them for any inconvenience this might have caused. As a temporary work around, you can try initially removing the residue with a dampened towel as this should be all that is needed. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments.
 
Man David that's great to hear a change was implemented so fast! I never had much of an issue removing the product with my typical removal process of using an onr bucket filled next to me while polishing to remove the residue. But when I tried with just a dry towel, could see some of the issues people were referring 2. Kudos to resolving the problem so fast though, as polishes/compounds are very difficult to make!
 
I kinda passed this sticking issue off at 1st because I or any of the beta-testers never experienced it, but Tunch immediately picked up on it. He checked into the production log and realized that a key ingredient wasn't consistent with prior formulations. He immediately corrected it and that was it. Even though he doesn't post here much these days, he still follows the forum in an effort to improve things. Thank god that a huge batch didn't get produced which is pretty unlikely because they tend to manufacture as they need it. But, some bottles did get out and because of this I made this announcement. I'm glad/hope people understand.
 
Nice post David (very stand up), and thanks for clearing that up. I'm going to be picking some up soon and didn't know if it was a true problem that needed time or just a flunky problem from its beta phase.
 
Interesting. I very briefly tested it vs M101 and M105 on a beat up Altima, but really didn't have time to do a full review. I've been away from detailing for several weeks now due to taking a new full-time job, but I'm hoping to get to try out the product again soon.



Early results were very good and I actually also liked UNO a lot. I need to practice with that some more as well.
 
Been really busy over the holidays like everyone else I'm sure, finally got around to giving HD Cut a good back to back testing:



Cut:5

Ease of use 4

Dusting 5

Work time 4

Removal from surface 3

Finish after use 4

Flexibility with various machines NA

Price (tbd) 5

Smell (or lack of) 5

Labeling 5



I tested this on my 95 Wrangler that has lived a hard life, outdoor 24x7x365x17 years and still on original paint! Probably waxed 1/2 a dozen times in its life, if that. Used a Megs maroon pad on a GG6 at speed 5. I'll follow up with a full review and pics soon.



What I liked:

-HUGE reduction in working overhead vs M105. The level of cut is similar to M105, there are much less headaches and side effects.

-Very little dust, on a scale of 1-10, this is a 1 and M105 is a 12.

-Long working time

-Cuts quickly, on par with 105, maybe more? The Jeep paint wasn't exactly rock hard, but HD cut leveled it FAST.

-Doesn't gum up the pad

-Nice consistency, not too thin, not too thick

Areas for improvement:

-I seemed to get little balls of HD Cut instead of dust, much easier to clean, and it didn't gum up my pads, I'm not sure its realistic to ask for the compound to disappear into thin air...

-Pads are much harder to clean out than M105. M105 rinses out easily, HD Cut does not.



This stuff is a huge win for me, I get the same level of cut as M105 and none of the mess. I need to try this out on some hard clear to really get an idea, but so far, this is great stuff!
 
Dan said:
Been really busy over the holidays like everyone else I'm sure, finally got around to giving HD Cut a good back to back testing:



Cut:5

Ease of use 4

Dusting 5

Work time 4

Removal from surface 3

Finish after use 4

Flexibility with various machines NA

Price (tbd) 5

Smell (or lack of) 5

Labeling 5



I tested this on my 95 Wrangler that has lived a hard life, outdoor 24x7x365x17 years and still on original paint! Probably waxed 1/2 a dozen times in its life, if that. Used a Megs maroon pad on a GG6 at speed 5. I'll follow up with a full review and pics soon.



What I liked:

-HUGE reduction in working overhead vs M105. The level of cut is similar to M105, there are much less headaches and side effects.

-Very little dust, on a scale of 1-10, this is a 1 and M105 is a 12.

-Long working time

-Cuts quickly, on par with 105, maybe more? The Jeep paint wasn't exactly rock hard, but HD cut leveled it FAST.

-Doesn't gum up the pad

-Nice consistency, not too thin, not too thick

Areas for improvement:

-I seemed to get little balls of HD Cut instead of dust, much easier to clean, and it didn't gum up my pads, I'm not sure its realistic to ask for the compound to disappear into thin air...

-Pads are much harder to clean out than M105. M105 rinses out easily, HD Cut does not.



This stuff is a huge win for me, I get the same level of cut as M105 and none of the mess. I need to try this out on some hard clear to really get an idea, but so far, this is great stuff!
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Great review Dan. You'll be getting a new bottle sent to you that will turn that "3" rating for removal to a "5". Since giving testers their version, the formula was tweaked a touch for production. They are being sent out this week I believe and should also come equipped with the new spout too.
 
David Fermani said:
Great review Dan. You'll be getting a new bottle sent to you that will turn that "3" rating for removal to a "5". Since giving testers their version, the formula was tweaked a touch for production. They are being sent out this week I believe and should also come equipped with the new spout too.
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I can confirm that I appear to have received the revised version in my recent order; so far it's pretty good stuff! Still nowhere near the cut of M101, but it's a decent compound and as promised, no dusting whatsoever. At least it's a huge improvement over UNO, which I was never all that enamored with.
 
David Fermani said:
Glad to know that Charlie! How would you rate it to M105?
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I'd probably rate it somewhere between D300 and M105 in terms of cut; I'll need to play with different pads to see if I can get more out of it. I'll do a more thorough rating/review once I've used it on a couple more cars. Wipe-off is just as easy as HD Polish, at least with this batch.
 
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