Flex polishers...

i got the flex and the edge adapter for the flex and pc so now i can use the pads on both. i really on need 4" pads to get into the small tight areas with the flex.
 
wascallyrabbit said:
.. i really on need 4" pads to get into the small tight areas with the flex.



And sometimes it's easiest to just use a large pad and work tight spots with the outer edge (a lot safer with machines like this than it is with the rotary).
 
I like mine. If I were a professional detailer I'd go with a rotary because 1) it's faster and 2) I'd have plenty of practice to get good with it. As a hobbiest, I only use mine on my own cars occasionally. I think the 3401 is the best for someone like me, who basically wants a PC with more power.
 
wfedwar said:
I like mine. If I were a professional detailer I'd go with a rotary because 1) it's faster and 2) I'd have plenty of practice to get good with it. As a hobbiest, I only use mine on my own cars occasionally..



That's a good point! I'll never come *close* to doing enough correction to really master the rotary. I bet a lot of pros here do more correction in a month than I'll do in the rest of my life.
 
Accumulator said:
And yeah#2, the 3401 is one *VERY* nice tool. I'd been afraid it'd be a waste of money since I already have two rotaries, two Cyclos, and two PCs, but nope...best detailing-related purchase I've made in a long time.



I take it your wife does not see the credit card statement?:laugh:



You know, you are going to have to buy the Flex a partner also or it will get jealous of the rotaries, cyclos and PC's!!!:bawling:



I am surprised you like the Flex so much. I figured you to be more old school and when you need power, go for the rotary.



If my UDM ever breaks I may break down and buy a Flex. That or a G110.
 
wfedwar said:
I like mine. If I were a professional detailer I'd go with a rotary because 1) it's faster and 2) I'd have plenty of practice to get good with it. As a hobbiest, I only use mine on my own cars occasionally. I think the 3401 is the best for someone like me, who basically wants a PC with more power.



The interesting thing about the FLEX 3401 is that in some circumstances it will actually be faster than a Rotary, DA, or a combination of the two. Sometimes a FLEX can remove defects and leave a finish that is LSP ready (no holograms) where as the same products/pads on a rotary would require either a DA or a different combination via rotary to remove and make LSP ready.



That said, I still reach for my Makita more often than my FLEX, but there are those times/jobs when the FLEX can be a real time saver by turning 2 steps into one! :woot2:
 
Accumulator said:
And yeah#2, the 3401 is one *VERY* nice tool. I'd been afraid it'd be a waste of money, but nope...best detailing-related purchase I've made in a long time. I still prefer using the Cyclos, but they don't have *NEARLY* the power of the Flex 3401.



Why do you prefer the Cyclo? Just familiarity, or something more/else?



EDIT: BTW, can anyone tell me if the Flex has a trigger lock, or whether you've got to hold the trigger down at all times when you're polishing? I love the trigger idea, but it would be nice to have the option to lock it.
 
Thanks Big Al, now I have more stuff to add to my CG order! I'm currently using the 6.5" LC CCS pads on my Flex, they're fine but I like the self-centering the CG pads have plus they appear to be made by LC and I like LC!
 
bert31 said:
I take it your wife does not see the credit card statement?



Heh heh, I *wish* Accumulatorette were a little involved in the cc statements :chuckle:



..I am surprised you like the Flex so much. I figured you to be more old school and when you need power, go for the rotary..



Eh..I just don't like the rotaries and my memories of using a Milwaukee with wool pads back in the day aren't all that swell (more like *sweltering* as it was a summer job).



Why do you prefer the Cyclo? Just familiarity, or something more/else?



I bet the familiarity has a lot to do with it, but I simply *like* it more than the others- the ergonomics, the way it feels when running, the machine-age look and feel of the thing, and even the utterly subjective "using an old-school device" aspect of it.



Plus, other than *serious* correction and/or using KAIO, it just does the job with no hassles/problems.




.. BTW, can anyone tell me if the Flex has a trigger lock, or whether you've got to hold the trigger down at all times when you're polishing? I love the trigger idea, but it would be nice to have the option to lock it.



Yeah, it has a trigger lock, but a few 3401s have had issues with not maintaining the correct opms when locked (that's IIRC, just a vague memory that somebody mentioned it). I gather the vendors take care of it, but I wanted to mention that it can happen.



The overall build-quality sorta reminds me of my Metabo; it's not a PC but it's no Cyclo/Milwaukee either.
 
Accumulator said:
Eh..I just don't like the rotaries and my memories of using a Milwaukee with wool pads back in the day aren't all that swell (more like *sweltering* as it was a summer job).





I bet the familiarity has a lot to do with it, but I simply *like* it more than the others- the ergonomics, the way it feels when running, the machine-age look and feel of the thing, and even the utterly subjective "using an old-school device" aspect of it.



Plus, other than *serious* correction and/or using KAIO, it just does the job with no hassles/problems.




Under what conditions would you use your Flex rather than your Cyclo or rotary?



Also, why is the cyclo difficult with KAIO? (I think I interpretted you correctly) If I did interpret you correctly, do you use the PC for KAIO?
 
bert31 said:
Under what conditions would you use your Flex rather than your Cyclo or rotary?



Instead of the Cyclo when I need to do serious correction on hard clear and in cases where the Cyclo isn't right due to the vehicles contours/etc. (e.g., it's just not the right machine for sections of my XJS).



Instead of the rotary all the time unless I need the rotary's added power (not too likely in these days of stuff like M105).




Also, why is the cyclo difficult with KAIO? (I think I interpretted you correctly) If I did interpret you correctly, do you use the PC for KAIO?



While some others have said they didn't have any problems with it, when I've used KAIO via Cyclo I got a *VERY* hard to remove residue, ended up using some other product (forget which) to get it off...huge PIA even though it was just a small area.



As best I can tell, the Cyclo flashed the KAIO too fast and that's presumably what made it stick to the paint the way it did. This was on a previously cleaned/polished finish with no issues. Only happened a few times but I'll *never* try it again and I caution others lest they go through what I did.



So yeah, I use the PC for AIO, often with a *Griot's* orange pad (!!*NOT* a LC/Edge/etc. orange!!) . Damp pad, speed 4-4.5, buffing the residue off before it dries completely (note that this might further diminish the KAIO's already meager durability, but I don't care as I top it with KSG/FK1000P/something anyhow).
 
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