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DuraGloss & Zaino
- Thread starter PINITI
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honkeybizkit
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G35stilez said:Funny, I was thinking the same thing.
I tested Duragloss #111 vs. Z5 (non-pro) about 2 years back on dark paint. There were very discernable differences.
Yeah but those aren't the comparable products. Z5 is to help with swirls and defects, where as #111 is their polish for paint in very good condition. I emailed DG a few days ago about #111 vs #105, and they replied....
Duragloss said:Thank you for your inquiry. If you are having trouble finding our product, you can go online to duragloss.com to order.
Part# 111 or 105 will give you great results. The difference is 105 is a harder polymer system and has a heavier cleaning agent than 111. We recommend 111 for new cars that does not yet need a cleaning agent.
Mike-in-WV
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jmsc said:Mike-in-WV:
Which USA cotton towels are you using today since Canon (Charisma) went out of business in the US a few years ago?
Believe it or not the best I have found are at K-Mart and they are 100% cotton and sold under Martha Stewart's name. Once they are washed they are as smooth as a baby's butt. I'm not sure what the thread count is but it's high. The really large bath towels are around $9.00 and I can get 3 nice wax/polish rags out of it after removing the edge and cutting them twice. Leaving them whole makes a beautiful drying towel.
My wife is always checking out the Salvation army stores for used cotton towels and sheets they sell. She has found some sheets for a dollar and I tear them up for shop rags. Can't beat the price or the quality.n You can get allot of great rags from one sheet.
I'm retired and on a budget and can't afford to buy the fancy shop rags . I have a few of the MF towels for waxing and buffing but they really aren't any better than 100% cotton or good terry towels, in my opinion. Mike
SR20det said:Yeah but those aren't the comparable products. Z5 is to help with swirls and defects, where as #111 is their polish for paint in very good condition. I emailed DG a few days ago about #111 vs #105, and they replied....
Incorrect.
Z5 is merely a pure sealant with a very minor synthetic filler (no silicones). It contains no cleaners or abrasives and is intended for a fully prepped surface (clay, polish).
wannafbody
wannafbody
from my use I will say that Z5pro, Z2pro and DG111 all have slightly different charactaristics but that doesn't mean that they don't have some of the same base ingredients. It might simply be the difference between a Pontiac and a Buick. Same platform different look.
So how is it that Sal could've possibly missed this? ... on ALL those Z labels? :dohPINITI-FX said:Maybe ... maybe NOT! :sadwavey: Perhaps somebody should inform Sal what really is in His "very unique and one of a kind" products, he seems to be at a loss ... http://www.detailersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2654&page=2
imported_memnuts
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"WOW. I wasn't aware of that... That is definetely, wrong... There are no aliphatic hydrocarbons in ZFX.
I will make the necessary corrections..
That's what I get for not proof reading everything myself. Oh well..
Thank you very kindly, for bringing that to my attention... I owe you one."
__________________
Thank You,
Sal Zaino
I believe Sal answered that question publicly.
In terms of aliphatic hydrocarbons, I would guess that Z sealants and Z1 do contain some. In terms of organic (hydrocarbon) solvents a manufacturer has 3 choices of organic solvents: Aromatic (carbon ring structured), Aliphatic (carbon straight chain structured) or a combination of both.
With the ever expanding and present VOC compliance regulations, aromatic contents are restricted because of their potential contribution to the deterioration of air quality. This resulted in the expanded use of aliphatic compounds and other non-volatile solvents. The trick is to make these less volatile solvents function in a similiar manner as their aromatic cousins. Many have failed in accomplishing this task resulting in either discontinuation of the product (Meg#16 and Final Detail), restricted distribution (FK shipped from AZ), or noticeable decline in product quality and performance (Klasse).
It took Zaino many years to accomplish this VOC compliant conversion and still maintain and in most cases advance the quality of his product line.
The uniqueness of the Zaino line is not based in it individual components but the structuring of these components. So far, reverse engineering or other's combinations of these components have not quite duplicated Zaino products. :bow
I will make the necessary corrections..
That's what I get for not proof reading everything myself. Oh well..
Thank you very kindly, for bringing that to my attention... I owe you one."
__________________
Thank You,
Sal Zaino
I believe Sal answered that question publicly.
In terms of aliphatic hydrocarbons, I would guess that Z sealants and Z1 do contain some. In terms of organic (hydrocarbon) solvents a manufacturer has 3 choices of organic solvents: Aromatic (carbon ring structured), Aliphatic (carbon straight chain structured) or a combination of both.
With the ever expanding and present VOC compliance regulations, aromatic contents are restricted because of their potential contribution to the deterioration of air quality. This resulted in the expanded use of aliphatic compounds and other non-volatile solvents. The trick is to make these less volatile solvents function in a similiar manner as their aromatic cousins. Many have failed in accomplishing this task resulting in either discontinuation of the product (Meg#16 and Final Detail), restricted distribution (FK shipped from AZ), or noticeable decline in product quality and performance (Klasse).
It took Zaino many years to accomplish this VOC compliant conversion and still maintain and in most cases advance the quality of his product line.
The uniqueness of the Zaino line is not based in it individual components but the structuring of these components. So far, reverse engineering or other's combinations of these components have not quite duplicated Zaino products. :bow
PINITI-FX said:So how is it that Sal could've possibly missed this? ... on ALL those Z labels? :doh
You would be surprised how easy that can be. Just look at restaurant menus and spot all the misspellings.
I once made an oversized business card that won several design awards, was even exhibited by the printing company in their brochure and guess what? I used it for a whole year before someone pointed out there was no phone number on the card!
DETAILKING
New member
PINITI-FX said:So how is it that Sal could've possibly missed this? ... on ALL those Z labels? :doh
It seems that this topic has already been addressed on the other forum and answered personally by Sal. If you still have beef with it or are personally displeased, please take it up with SAL personally, this is not the forum for it. Let's keep the posts constructive.
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