Dodo Juice Ferro Lube-Clay Lube/Fallout Remover Review

[Pats300zx]

While I was at Detail Fest this year I had the chance to stop by the Dodo Juice booth and talk to PJ about some new products that he was planning on releasing this year in the United States. One product that caught by eye was the Dodo Juice Ferro Lube. This product is essentially a clay lube and iron decontamination/fallout product in one. PJ was gracious enough to give me a bottle to see what I thought of the product.

Product Description:

Dodo Juice Supernatural Ferro Lube Iron Remover/Car Clay Lube Spray 500ml

An integrated clay lube and iron remover – carry out both decontamination stages in one process.

Why use fallout remover and then clay, when you can combine both stages with Supernatural Ferro Lube? Unlike standard iron removers that can be used as a clay lube, Supernatural Ferro Lube is a dedicated product, based on Dodo Juices famous clay lube recipes.

Usage:

I figured the proper way to test out Ferro Lube and see the true benefits of the decon would be to try it on my 2012 White Jeep Wrangler. I grabbed a new Meguiars white clay bar and sprayed the hood liberally with the Ferro Lube and per the directions waited about 3-4 minutes to see if I got a color change.
Surprisingly I noticed a slight color change to purple as the iron oxide began to break down. I then proceeded to clay. The lube was very slick and did a fantastic job of removing all of the bonded containments with the clay. I then rinsed completely and rewashed.
Thoughts:
1) The Ferro Lube worked fantastic as a clay lube and fallout remover in one. Very slick, smooth, nice working time with the clay, and truly a time saver by combining two steps in one.
2) Scent: No foul scent like many of the typical Decon products on the market (ie Ironx etc)
3) Cost effectiveness: I think this would be the perfect product for the weekend detailer who is looking to combine time and cost on purchasing a dedicated clay lube and decon product. Essentially you are taking care of two steps with one product. The only downside I see is for a professionally detailer that the cost of buying this product in bulk or 500 ml bottles might not be as cost effective as say a gallon of a dedicated iron decon product and just using ONR or something else as a clay lube.

Pictures:

In the pictures you can see the color change after about 3-4 minutes of sitting on the hood. It was difficult in some of the pics to capture since I was doing everything indoors.

 

[mjlinane]

Great write-up, Pat!

 

[donbeezy]

nice! was wondering when someone was going to make one of these

 

[rlmccarty2000]

Nice review. I wonder what they did to it to remove the terrible smell? I have used their Ferrous Dweller product and it smelled as bad as BDX, but not as strong as Iron-X. Its an interesting product. Good to see some innovation instead of carbon copies of other products.

 

[Ronkh]

Cool review.

I remember we talked about it when you got it. I was wondering about the smell, so that is one concern gone.

How long did you have to let it sit for the red to start? I like to spray and clay. Sorta gives me control over both, as well as here things tend to dry quickly.

Did you wear gloves?

 

[Pats300zx]

Cool review.

I remember we talked about it when you got it. I was wondering about the smell, so that is one concern gone.

How long did you have to let it sit for the red to start? I like to spray and clay. Sorta gives me control over both, as well as here things tend to dry quickly.

Did you wear gloves?

Hey Ron..I definitely wore gloves. I saw a color change in about 3-4 minutes but I would not do it in the sun as it will dry to quickly.

 

[Ronkh]

Cool

Thanks

 

[BSkip333]

Sounds interesting. I wonder if it will work well with clay alternatives.

 

[Marc08EX]

Great write up as always Pat!

This sounds like trouble to me... Id be worried about the dissolved metal particles... What if the iron remover lifts the metal particle from the surface and you clay that around the paint?

If it was me, Id still do IronX, rinse then clay after. I dont think the rinsing adds much more time... Better be safe than sorry.

 

[theDodo]

First, thanks for the review Pat. i am happy you liked the product. i can guess that your car is reasonably immaculate, so the fact you got some noticeable reactions means to me that it is definitely doing the job it was intended to do. getting to the smallest most ingrained particulate that can remain in the clear coat on the car even in a well maintained vehicle.

Good to see some innovation instead of carbon copies of other products.

biased here 8) - but that is what we strive to do, with over 350 SKUs, we are more than a wax company.

Hey Ron..I definitely wore gloves. I saw a color change in about 3-4 minutes but I would not do it in the sun as it will dry to quickly.

you make a good point Pat, claying is not really ever a good idea in direct sunlight due to the need to use more lubrication.

Sounds interesting. I wonder if it will work well with clay alternatives.

at a guess, you are referring to clay media. the lubricant will function as well as any other clay lube with the use of clay media. the more salient point to take note of is the use of clay media as a straight alternative to clay. the use of clay media over normal clay should be done with more care. there is no where for the particulate to go when using clay media - hence we highly recommend that you wipe the surface of the media after every second swipe on the paint (less if there is noticeably less contamination). when testing clay media products we have not seen a marked increase in speed when taking care not to push the particulate over the rest of the paint, due to the amount of clay wiping required. however, if claying as part of a medium to full correction detail, where all the paint will be machine polished, then it can save time in the process. having said that - any of our clay lubes, from BoB through to Dodo Juice - to Supernatural will work well with clay alternatives because they are developed using detergents/soaps as the lubricant rather than a silicone.

Great write up as always Pat!

This sounds like trouble to me... Id be worried about the dissolved metal particles... What if the iron remover lifts the metal particle from the surface and you clay that around the paint?

If it was me, Id still do IronX, rinse then clay after. I dont think the rinsing adds much more time... Better be safe than sorry.

right, i understand your caution, however, let me chime in here. if the particulate is small enough to be dissolved it would no longer have an abrasive effect as it would be in solution and no longer in solid form. if it does help to lift out small bits that otherwise would not have been released due to the iron reaction then it is doing the job it was supposed to do. i have seen first hand that some minuscule iron filings have punctured the clear coat and bent the out-sticking to form what can only be likened to a fish hook. if this is loosened due to the reaction and removed using clay then that can only be a good thing. lastly - as part of what i wrote above - if you are using normal clay then any particulate will be pushed into the clay, which you then fold precisely to avoid the situation you describe. however, if using clay media then, as above, there is more chance of abrading the surface due to the particulate having nowhere to go.

 

[Angus]

Great review, Pat! Thanks for bringing this new innovated product from Dodo Juice to our eyes Anything that helps save a few steps/ time is a winner in my eyes.

... the use of clay media over normal clay should be done with more care. there is no where for the particulate to go when using clay media - hence we highly recommend that you wipe the surface of the media after every second swipe on the paint (less if there is noticeably less contamination). when testing clay media products we have not seen a marked increase in speed when taking care not to push the particulate over the rest of the paint, due to the amount of clay wiping required...

.... if the particulate is small enough to be dissolved it would no longer have an abrasive effect as it would be in solution and no longer in solid form.... if you are using normal clay then any particulate will be pushed into the clay, which you then fold precisely to avoid the situation you describe. however, if using clay media then, as above, there is more chance of abrading the surface due to the particulate having nowhere to go.

Thanks for the clarification theDodo. The very first question that popped into my head was regarding how dissolving iron particulates would impact clay being slid across the paint. Taking care when using traditional or newer clay media makes sense and how frequently you refresh it is something everyone should keep in mind regardless of chemicals used.

 

[RaysWay]

Great review Pat and I LOVE the ideology behind this product! As soon as I saw it on our shelve, I was super intrigued. The fact that it dissolves iron contaminants while clay barring makes me think of it like a foam gun dissolves dirt before you glide a wash mitt on the surface. Also, because the contaminants are being dissolved, I would think theres less of a chance of marring the paint since the contaminants are much smaller when compared to a traditional clay bar and lubricant combo.

If I clay paint, 99% of the time Im going to polish the paint anyways so Ive never really been too concerned with any light marring clay bars can cause.

I can see a lot of great uses for a product like this. For example, before coating any high end wheels I always clay bar the wheels to make sure ALL contaminants were removed. Using this product would act almost like a double decontamination process in a single step. It sounds GENIUS

Can it be used with a clay bar alternative type product like a Nanoskin wash mitt?

 

[theDodo]

Can it be used with a clay bar alternative type product like a Nanoskin wash mitt?

see from above:

Sounds interesting. I wonder if it will work well with clay alternatives.

... at a guess, you are referring to clay media. the lubricant will function as well as any other clay lube with the use of clay media. the more salient point to take note of is the use of clay media as a straight alternative to clay. the use of clay media over normal clay should be done with more care. there is no where for the particulate to go when using clay media - hence we highly recommend that you wipe the surface of the media after every second swipe on the paint (less if there is noticeably less contamination). when testing clay media products we have not seen a marked increase in speed when taking care not to push the particulate over the rest of the paint, due to the amount of clay wiping required. however, if claying as part of a medium to full correction detail, where all the paint will be machine polished, then it can save time in the process. having said that - any of our clay lubes, from BoB through to Dodo Juice - to Supernatural will work well with clay alternatives because they are developed using detergents/soaps as the lubricant rather than a silicone.

 

[RaysWay]

see from above:

I skimmed over your post :lol2: Thanks. Makes sense

 

[512detail]

awesome. thanks for the review Pat.

that sounds like a product I will have to purchase

that then hydrofoam or hydro2 and what a quick detail!

 

[RaysWay]

awesome. thanks for the review Pat.

that sounds like a product I will have to purchase

that then hydrofoam or hydro2 and what a quick detail!

I bet PJ would argue a hand applied carnauba wax with relaxing music would be best

 

[512detail]

I bet PJ would argue a hand applied carnauba wax with relaxing music would be best

I would have to agree personally with the hand applied wax and music...But i was considering how quickly one could do a decon clay and wash seal on a car not needing correction .. one would only need two products plus clay mitt/bar

 

[512detail]

when will you guys be taking my money on this product? lol

 

[theDodo]

I bet PJ would argue a hand applied carnauba wax with relaxing music would be best

I would have to agree personally with the hand applied wax and music...But i was considering how quickly one could do a decon clay and wash seal on a car not needing correction .. one would only need two products plus clay mitt/bar

as i say, there are many ways to get the job done 8) for me, the tactility of the process of applying a paste wax by hand just reinforces my own sense of accomplishment. in my detail process, the wash and prep stages will always take longer than the protection stage. it is in these two first stages that the work is really done. then you get to inspect every inch of work you have done. note that you can feel places you might have missed or not completely finished. additionally you have to be physically closer to the paint as you go round, arms-length in fact, allowing better inspection of the entire surface.

so for me, i enjoy some toonz and a good paste wax applied directly to the paint by hand - it is preference not a disclaimer against other protection methods nor product types. currently i am also really enjoying our wet or dry applied spray sealant. i have a tree over my parking space which at this time of year has a few birds that congregate on a nightly basis to foul my car... every damn night/morning. bring it into the office and it gets pressure washed and then, without drying, a nice top up with Future Armour. drying and topping up at the same time - easy peasy for such frequent wash downs.

when will you guys be taking my money on this product? lol

the Supernatural Ferro Lube is available at Autogeek now 8) - hope i am allowed to answer this, otherwise i can remove.

 

[512detail]

Ive never tried applying via hand..might need a manicure first, haha

Future Armor Sealant is some good stuff! I gave it a shot and really liked using it.