Do you use a Glaze?

howareb said:
Do a search on wet glaze? There is a lot of good info out there. Geoff (steelwind101) gives a lot of good advice on the subject.



One of his favorite processes is to use. Wet glaze, Souveran, and then Optiseal. Wetglaze is a very adaptable product.
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:up thanks for the vote of confidence!
 
Conan777 said:
I do not want my sealant to last as long as the glaze?? I was asking if a wax or sealant was applied over a glaze would it extend the life of he glaze.



I'll look into the Danase acrilyc glaze, that sounds pretty good. I am interested in trying this out. Are there any tricks to applying this stuff. Any other product recommendations?
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Your glaze should only start to fail once your sealant has been compromised.
 
SShine said:
even better is the stick on letters from lowes to letter the vehicle :)



back on topic, what about putting the glaze over my LSP, and then putting nxt/26 over it again?
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I am sooooo glad that you are more open minded towards glazes. :)



In reference to your question I personally would use the #3 and then #26 (but the NXT would be fine also, applied by hand. The cleaners in NXT may become too aggressive when applied by machine.)
 
SSHine, its really good to put a polymer glaze between each layer of product, b/c the polymer glaze sits well between the layers. However, with an oil glaze (Meguiars all use TS oils) you will end up wiping most of it away. In my eyes, there is little no benefit.
 
Wow, I can't believe this thread made it to four pages. Just to add to excess of information you got in this thread (which was all great info), yes, you can achieve amazing results without resorting to a glaze, even on black, but the big question is, do *you* want to take the time to maintain it?" The amount of polishing it takes to get a "perfect" finish on a dark/black colored car can get pretty extensive if its in bad shape, and add the fact that its soft can only mean even more maintenance than most. Sure, you can do it, but do you want to?



Here's a pic of a Sapphire Black BMW I did that was swirled up pretty bad by a novice and a rotary. Keep in mind that I spent an entire day doing nothing but polishing, and didn't even begin to seal it until the next day because I ran out of time. I think I went through 7 or 8 pads doing this detail, not counting 3 more on the second day. The end result was great, and it held up just as good, but this was a very hard paint, and didn't get driven much at all.



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Now, on my own vehicle. I don't have the time to detail at all anymore, or even wash my truck lately so I drive it through a machine car wash. All I do is drive it through the car wash once a week, wipe it down with a mf towel and some qd, and that's about it. Once every 6 months I go over it with some Wet Mirror Finish, which is a type of glaze, and seal it with JetSeal, which, again, has some fillers, and this is how my truck stays 24/7. Maintenance and choosing the right products for your vehicle is the key.



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Ive also got a black Lexus, I tried using 3m Imperial Hand Glaze, it gave an amazing pop and finish to the paint BUT after 2 or 3 washes it needed doing again. So now I just use kaio and finish off with either a paste wax on top or if im lazy any acrylic spritz. I gave her a good machine polish in Oct 07 and have just started to notice some slight swirls under the lights, maybe this is due to winter weather / washing?
 
JDookie said:
Here's a pic of a Sapphire Black BMW I did that was swirled up pretty bad by a novice and a rotary. Keep in mind that I spent an entire day doing nothing but polishing, and didn't even begin to seal it until the next day because I ran out of time. I think I went through 7 or 8 pads doing this detail, not counting 3 more on the second day. The end result was great, and it held up just as good, but this was a very hard paint, and didn't get driven much at all.



Now, on my own vehicle. I don't have the time to detail at all anymore, or even wash my truck lately so I drive it through a machine car wash. All I do is drive it through the car wash once a week, wipe it down with a mf towel and some qd, and that's about it. Once every 6 months I go over it with some Wet Mirror Finish, which is a type of glaze, and seal it with JetSeal, which, again, has some fillers, and this is how my truck stays 24/7. Maintenance and choosing the right products for your vehicle is the key.
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Awesome examples showing when a glaze could or should be used!!!! Nice truck also :D
 
toby tyke said:
Ive also got a black Lexus..I gave her a good machine polish in Oct 07 and have just started to notice some slight swirls under the lights, maybe this is due to winter weather / washing?
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Almost certainly a result of the washing. Washing winter [stuff] off without marring the paint is very, very difficult.



Something for pros to consider (and also those who are otherwise doing vehciles for other people)- getting a finish nice is one thing, but *keeping* it that way is what's really tough. If a customer/whoever is just gonna mar it up again anyhow, why keep taking off paint to achieve what a glaze can provide *in their perception*? If the vehicle "looks good" to them, then it looks good and you can only take off so much clear so many times.
 
JDookie you dont have any time to wash your truck AT ALL? Paint looks good for going through machine washes I must say.
 
toby tyke said:
Ive also got a black Lexus, I tried using 3m Imperial Hand Glaze, it gave an amazing pop and finish to the paint BUT after 2 or 3 washes it needed doing again. So now I just use kaio and finish off with either a paste wax on top or if im lazy any acrylic spritz. I gave her a good machine polish in Oct 07 and have just started to notice some slight swirls under the lights, maybe this is due to winter weather / washing?
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Hi!



You cant use 3m Imperial Hand Glaze on its own, it needs to be topped!



JDookie: Amazing look truck, the truck itself and the detailing :2thumbs:



Geoff
 
I’m in the same boat with a black daily driver and have been trying to do my best, this winter, with a combination of heated garage rinseless washes and an occasional “touchless� wash when the salt gets really bad. Hopefully, I can get through the winter with minimal damage and address any problems in the spring with some DA polishing.



This thread, relating to glazes, reminded me that I purchased CK Vanilla Moose Glaze and Carnauba Moose Wax, last summer, and I’m curious as to the forum’s opinion on whether I’d be wasting my time and energies applying this combo to my recently DG 105’d black car.



After going through all the work of heating the garage and performing the rinseless wash activities, I hate to just leave it at that (car is now sitting there nice and clean in the middle of winter in my heated garage), so I usually like to apply something. A couple of weeks ago, after a rinseless wash, I applied DG 105.



I’m thinking about doing another garage rinseless wash this weekend or maybe next (I wish it would stop snowing around here and the city would stop salting !) and my original thought was to just use AW afterward.



Am I just wasting my time due to the recent DG 105 application ?



Tom in Wisconsin
 
I've used Meguiars #7 a lot on customer's vehicles if they were going to be showing them, then topped it with an application of a good carnauba. I know a guy local to me, makes some awesome waxes.
 
steelwind101 said:
You cant use 3m Imperial Hand Glaze on its own, it needs to be topped!
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Well, that's true if you want it to last ;) Untopped IHG is an OK approach with fresh repaints, just gotta redo it after every wash. I don't intend that as a :nono just don't want somebody to get the wrong idea.
 
SShine said:
JDookie you dont have any time to wash your truck AT ALL? Paint looks good for going through machine washes I must say.
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steelwind101 said:
JDookie: Amazing look truck, the truck itself and the detailing :2thumbs:



Geoff
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I know, can you believe it? I'm almost embarrassed to say that I drive it through a machine wash, but look at it. Can you tell? Nobody can.



I live in New Orleans and since Hurricane Katrina, nothing is the same. I am rebuilding our home, rebuilding all of my rental homes, getting married in two weeks, and work as a firefighter for my regular day job. Time has become the most precious of luxuries these days, and that doesn't even begin to describe it.



Anyway, with all of this going on, taking a day to detail my truck when it could be a day working on our house, or even better, just spending time with my lovely 'wife to be' just cannot be rationalized so I drive through the local car wash, and maintain it the best I can.



That being said, the products I am using right now are also hardcore kick butt products that last a really long time. I've only touched my truck with a buffer one time since I bought it, and that was to apply Wet Mirror Finish and JetSeal. No polishing of any kind has been done yet, and if I go with those two products again (which I am), I probably won't have to polish it at all the next time either. A quick claybar, and that's a wrap.



I attribute at least 50% of the longevity of my finish to the qd I use, CG's Synthetic-Polymer qd. After a wipedown with this stuff, and the finish is as slick as can be, and protects for a good week or so, which is all I need to get to the next wash. Like I said before, the trick is to find what product(s) work best with your car and your daily methods. Some people can't imagine anything better than to spend a weekend detailing their car with multi-stage polishes, I know because I am one of them, but not everyone has the time to do that so we just do the most we can with what we have to work with.



I just happened to stumble on this combination of technique and product(s) for my particular situation. That being said, this combo would have NEVER worked on my all black Expedition. That vehicle had its own way of being maintained, which happened to include glazes too, by the way. VM and RMG looked awesome on that vehicle, but that's another story.



Anyway, thanks for the compliments. I appreciate it.
 
WOW and autopian using an automatic car wash! say it ain't so! LOL!:cry: Well I have to say it still looks pretty good in the pics which surprises me for being a darker colored car. Sounds like you have a good combo of products there.
 
Tried the Danase Wet Glaze and was very impressed. Only previous experience was with Meguiar's #5 and #7 over a repainted hood. Really didn't like it at all. It flashed way too quickly, the 5 dusts like crazy and the 7 has to be applied in small areas then removed. The smell reeks too. Maybe its because they were made for single stage paint.



The Wet Glaze goes on smooth like Liquid Souveran. You can apply to the entire car before buffing off. Easy to remove and leaves an incredible shine. Put Clearkote Carauba Wax over it and wow. What I also like is its versatility. You can apply under or over acrylic sealant too. Nice grape scent as well.



Since I like to futz with my car, the durability doesn't bother me. I'll just apply another coat of DWG when the mood strikes.



Definitely not your usual glaze.
 
Tried the Danase Wet Glaze and was very impressed. Only previous experience was with Meguiar's #5 and #7 over a repainted hood. Really didn't like it at all. It flashed way too quickly, the 5 dusts like crazy and the 7 has to be applied in small areas then removed. The smell reeks too. Maybe its because they were made for single stage paint.



The Wet Glaze goes on smooth like Liquid Souveran. You can apply to the entire car before buffing off. Easy to remove and leaves an incredible shine. Put Clearkote Carauba Wax over it and wow. What I also like is its versatility. You can apply under or over acrylic sealant too. Nice grape scent as well.



Since I like to futz with my car, the durability doesn't bother me. I'll just apply another coat of DWG when the mood strikes.



Definitely not your usual glaze.
 
ricka said:
.. The smell [of Meg's #5/#7] reeks too. Maybe its because they were made for single stage paint..
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Ah, you really don't like the smell of 'em? I think they smell great, a lot better than grape/etc. Heh heh, never mind me, to each their own...guess I'm just in a :nana: mood this morning :D
 
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