DITEC Paint Protection System - Has anyone heard of it?

[Dan]

And you just happened to stumble upon a forum that prides itself on competition. Had you looked around before you posted you might have thought twice about posting.



There are hundreds if not thousands of product comparisons here.

 

[mikenap]

Keeping my fingers crossed for another epic thread. It's time for another one!op2:

 

[David Fermani]

Not familiar with the OptiCoat product, I didn't realize this was a product competition. I believe the original question here was to learn more about a product being offered in Miami.

No, the original question was if anyone has ever heard of DITEC. And, because I directly have, I gave my educated opinion on the product. YOU and YOUR crony then decided to SPAM the forum with your REDICULOUS video(twice) that not only horribly backfired, but reinforced how pathetic the product and people who represent it are.

 

[imported_Erik Mejia1]

Looks like the DITEC group is a bunch of hit and run spammers. And that video of the Audi is pathetic too. Makes Renny Doyle less credible then ever before. Anyone reading should be aware that if this product was one bit good, it would get mentioned by regular members.

I dont think that is fair to Renny. Maybe he'll chime in with his thoughts and experience with this "Ditec" product.



You are however correct about spamming... its no good.

 

[Deep Gloss Auto Salon]

If anyone is up for a real laugh, check this one out: ound:

David, I think you are being far too critical. Especially regarding the second video. Lets state the facts (as I see them) based on the second video.

1) they are playing some classy music

2) they have some nice cars in the video

3) they actually use tape

4) they have their company name on their clothing

So David, in summary I think you may be being just a bit harsh on these chaps



/sarcasm

 

[wascallyrabbit]

the video renny put on youtube never stated what product(s) where being used.

 

[dmartiniup]

You have got to love the CUT & Paste function. LOL

Come on guys! Give me a break! That was not cut and paste but a thoughtful and timely response to a request for information on DITEC. I can't "sell" you on a product you've decided not to believe in, but I can provide factual information so you can make a reasoned decision. I am a DITEC customer, not a sales rep. I was so impressed by the product when Audi recommended it to me for my new car that I contacted the president to do public relations work for the company. But first and foremost, I am a customer who uses DITEC on my car, motorcycle and in my house--it is a very effective line of cleaning products. The paint preservation system must be professionally applied because there are 5 steps to properly cleaning and preparing the surface. Yes, DITEC cleans the paint to the pores (created when the original paint dries and that is where contaminants can get into the paint surface), then it seals them and the top coat bonds to the seal to make it long lasting. DITEC might not be the only paint sealant on the market and may not be cheap, but it works and it lasts.

 

[SuperBee364]

Come on guys! Give me a break! That was not cut and paste but a thoughtful and timely response to a request for information on DITEC. I can't "sell" you on a product you've decided not to believe in, but I can provide factual information so you can make a reasoned decision. I am a DITEC customer, not a sales rep. I was so impressed by the product when Audi recommended it to me for my new car that I contacted the president to do public relations work for the company. But first and foremost, I am a customer who uses DITEC on my car, motorcycle and in my house--it is a very effective line of cleaning products. The paint preservation system must be professionally applied because there are 5 steps to properly cleaning and preparing the surface. Yes, DITEC cleans the paint to the pores (created when the original paint dries and that is where contaminants can get into the paint surface), then it seals them and the top coat bonds to the seal to make it long lasting. DITEC might not be the only paint sealant on the market and may not be cheap, but it works and it lasts.

So is this a sealant or a coating? You have, no doubt, read the posts where we ask how it compares to Opti-Coat. In case you haven't heard of Opti-Coat (OC for short), it is an actual coating. It is very similar to adding an additional layer of clear coat to your car, albeit much harder and much more chemical resistant than clear coat. Some guys have had it on their cars for almost five years now, without re-applying it. The only way OC can be removed is through abrasive polishing (just like clear coat).



Forgive us for being so skeptical (or not ) as fly-by-night "dealer package" sealants have come and gone for yeeeears. Every new car I've bought since 1984 has come with the dealer pushing their latest-and-greatest "Paint Sealant". Always at a very high cost, and very minimal worth.



If yours is to be proven as anything different, then it must be exactly that: proven. Infomercial boiler plate text will *not* get you far on Autopia, but *results* will. You want to break in to the Autopia market, then get your product in the hands of a few well respected Autopians and let them put it through the paces. David Fermani (to name just one) would be a great guy to start with. Don't let his previous posts regarding your product influence your decision; David is as fair and unbiased when it comes to *actual product reviews* as they come. Note the emphasis on *actual product reviews*. That's what we want here, not infomercial diatribe.



It's as simple as this: no amount of text ("our customers love our stuff!", "Cruise lines use it!", "It cleans the paint pores!") will do it. Only testing and the obtained results. So until you're actually willing to put the products in the hands of a respected Autopian, you'll continue to get the replies you have received so far.

 

[David Fermani]

the video renny put on youtube never stated what product(s) where being used.

No, not directly, but it is the video these people tried spamming us with. And by the description Renny posted to the video it sure does go hand in hand with what this product line is about. These people obviously know alot more about the product that they are elluding to don't you think?

 

[wascallyrabbit]

No, not directly, but it is the video these people tried spamming us with. And by the description Renny posted to the video it sure does go hand in hand with what this product line is about. These people obviously know alot more about the product that they are elluding to don't you think?

yes agreed.

 

[David Fermani]

I can't "sell" you on a product you've decided not to believe in, but I can provide factual information so you can make a reasoned decision.

Please post 1 single documentable piece of “factual” information for us to digest then……

And, while you’re at it, please cut and paste the product warranty to this discussion too. I’d love to read through all the loop holed promises DITEC is perpetrating to uneducated consumers.



Remember, we’re obviously not some deer in the headlights uneducated new car customer excited to take delivery of their brand new vehicle or someone at the Swap Shop. We’re detailers (Autopians) who eat, breathe and sleep protection products. You wanna impress us, it will take A LOT more then some weak attempt at an infomercial by an unknown “customer”.

I am a DITEC customer, not a sales rep. I was so impressed by the product when Audi recommended it to me for my new car that I contacted the president to do public relations work for the company.

So, this proves you have a vested interest in not only this product, but this company. You can’t be a customer and work for the company at the same time? What makes it even sleazier is if DITEC actually allows you to go about marketing yourself and their name in such an unprofessional and uneducated manner. I’d expect this at a flee market like

But first and foremost, I am a customer who uses DITEC on my car, motorcycle and in my house--it is a very effective line of cleaning products. The paint preservation system must be professionally applied because there are 5 steps to properly cleaning and preparing the surface. Yes, DITEC cleans the paint to the pores (created when the original paint dries and that is where contaminants can get into the paint surface), then it seals them and the top coat bonds to the seal to make it long lasting. DITEC might not be the only paint sealant on the market and may not be cheap, but it works and it lasts.

Epic fail of a sales pitch right here. You forgot to mention it can also be lit on fire and provides UV protection too huh? You and DITEC might need to step up your pitch to these high tech levels:

 

[Woody Wax]

Come on guys! Give me a break! That was not cut and paste but a thoughtful and timely response to a request for information on DITEC. I can't "sell" you on a product you've decided not to believe in, but I can provide factual information so you can make a reasoned decision. I am a DITEC customer, not a sales rep. I was so impressed by the product when Audi recommended it to me for my new car that I contacted the president to do public relations work for the company. But first and foremost, I am a customer who uses DITEC on my car, motorcycle and in my house--it is a very effective line of cleaning products. The paint preservation system must be professionally applied because there are 5 steps to properly cleaning and preparing the surface. Yes, DITEC cleans the paint to the pores (created when the original paint dries and that is where contaminants can get into the paint surface), then it seals them and the top coat bonds to the seal to make it long lasting. DITEC might not be the only paint sealant on the market and may not be cheap, but it works and it lasts.

David how do I compete with that lol





Whilst your initial statement may have been "A thoughtful and timely response to a request for information on DITEC." I am sure that if you go back and read it again you will get a clear understanding of why you received the response you did.



You should also take into consideration that this site with the volume of and quality of members is a huge target for those wishing to pitch their "Worlds best wax" in a quick spam sales pitch and as such is met with a great deal of skepticism. And as Super Bee pointed out, when you spend as much time and money as we do trialing and learning about products and then hear some one has spent $$$$$$ on a Dealers paint sealant systems, it makes a lot of us angry that they got sucked in as we know better.



So with all that aside, consider this your break.



What makes DITEC different / special?

What makes it worth the cost?

What experience do you have with the many other options available.



No offence intended, However I know people that are truly impressed with the results of putting just a detail spray on there car etc For no other reason than they know no better.



Just my 2c



Cheers Daniel

 

[rennydoyle]

I test and evaluate a ton of products as many of you do. I DO NOT SELL or endorse these products, I test them, simple as that. Search my sites, you will not find the promotion or endorsement of any one line other then those that I work with on large, sponsored projects, it's as simple as that. DITEC is a nice product, I will give it that and I did enjoy working with it as I do with many products on the market today. Is that so bad?



The Audi project mentioned in this post was brought into the shop for a couple who was working with me that week, Gerry and Lauren were very interested in the DITEC line and the staff at DITEC engaged me to gain my opinion and possibly train their detailing centers within the art of proper detailing. That is the extent of the relationship. Of course, I wanted to see how the product performed and was given a wonderful opportunity to do just that, use the product, test it and evaluate DITEC from the professional detailers point of view.



I was very critical of some of the statements and claims that DITEC was making and openly shared that with DITEC staff. I was also a tad alarmed at the cost of the line but with said, DITEC has a very niche market and those who do have the product applied, are usually very loyal to the brand.



DITEC did get my attention so I made the DITEC gang a nice little video for being supportive of my challenge to test their line and I was pleased with the outcome. Is that so bad? Did I sell the system? Am I promoting the system? Am I whoring myself out for it as some of you made it sound like? NO, go to my site, I never mention the line, I simply tested it and if a couple of you haters take issue with that, so be it as that is what those of us passionate about detailing do, we test, evaluate and make wise decisions from our findings.



I evaluated the DITEC line, I performed an overview on the application process and shared that process with Gerry and Lauren and I am age and durability testing the product at this time. I also have another five product lines that I am doing the same with, that is simply what many of us that are picky do with products before we are willing to adopt the products into our systems.



To install DITEC, you need to be a licensed service center as I understand it and I am NOT a DITEC service center, I performed testing, evaluation and provided my input and concerns as they asked. I do the same with many, including Jason Rose of Meguiars, Shell Oil, who has owned many chemical lines, DRC pads, Lake Country, who I have given input on items for years, Grit Guard, Ragg Topp, CAR Products, Flex Tools and other hitters within the industry. Like many I you, I also do an enormis amount of testing on my own and test endless lines each year.



One person challenge I would remove the video? I won't as it's not about a product, it's about what two brand new detailers did with that car. Also, DiTec may or may not be attractive to us as pro level detailers but why would I assassinate a line, that is not me and it's not professional. You and I as professional detailers test many main stream products we may not like, but others may like it and someone worked hard to develop that product and I simply will not assassinate a line as some do within a public forum, it's just not my thing or my way.



This product is only a protective and beautification product and the corrective work Gerry and Lauren did on that vehicle was amazing. Like any other product that protects or deepens the paint system, that products results are only as good as the foundation we create during the corrective stages of the project and these two brand new pro detailers did an amazing job and the video was more about their achievements on the car.



For you haters, I pity you as your lack of professionalism I am sure is a major stumbling block within your career and life. For those who responded with professionalism and respect within this post, thank you for being true pro's. Some of you I have met and know and thus you and I don't need to prove anything by being e-thugs hiding behind a key board. Pro's like you and I are true professionals dedicated to the art and the business of detailing.

 

[David Fermani]

1st off, welcome back to Autopia Renny and thank you for commenting on this discussion. I see you’ve chosen to start a new screen name instead of using your prior one? Regardless, I’d like to address your response as precisely and professionally as possible in order to not only clear the air, but in attempt to rectify any of my prior negative dialog directed towards you moving forward. Forgive me if anything I posted offended you as it is not my intension. A few members and I may have gone a little overboard with the way these 2 people suddenly joined the forum to promote this product in the way that they did. I’m all for free discussion of any and all products and clearly kept this thread open in order to give these people adequate time to explain themselves which they clearly did not try to do even after multiple days passing. I’d hate to have someone Google these products and have this discussion pop up even after allowing them to vindicate their actions.

I test and evaluate a ton of products as many of you do. I DO NOT SELL or endorse these products, I test them, simple as that.

Even though you might not have directly endorsed this product, your followers in this thread sure seemed to have grasped the concept that you do? To me, their actions seemed as a poor attempt to spam the forum. Especially when the same member posted the same link to your video in back to back posts.

Search my sites, you will not find the promotion or endorsement of any one line other then those that I work with on large, sponsored projects, it's as simple as that. DITEC is a nice product, I will give it that and I did enjoy working with it as I do with many products on the market today. Is that so bad?

Not at all, but care to explain what makes this product so nice? This may only help people’s perception of the product which couldn’t hurt at this point.

The Audi project mentioned in this post was brought into the shop for a couple who was working with me that week, Gerry and Lauren were very interested in the DITEC line and the staff at DITEC engaged me to gain my opinion and possibly train their detailing centers within the art of proper detailing. That is the extent of the relationship. Of course, I wanted to see how the product performed and was given a wonderful opportunity to do just that, use the product, test it and evaluate DITEC from the professional detailers point of view.



I was very critical of some of the statements and claims that DITEC was making and openly shared that with DITEC staff. I was also a tad alarmed at the cost of the line but with said, DITEC has a very niche market and those who do have the product applied, are usually very loyal to the brand.

Probably so, but these poster’s pitch here obviously didn’t make a positive impact for theirs or DITEC’s image. Don’t you agree? It’s pretty close to textbox spam to me. Especially when one of the poster’s IP address is on the Domain Name System Blacklists? Again, not something I’d want to be associated with in my professional business.

DITEC did get my attention so I made the DITEC gang a nice little video for being supportive of my challenge to test their line and I was pleased with the outcome. Is that so bad? Did I sell the system? Am I promoting the system? Am I whoring myself out for it as some of you made it sound like? NO, go to my site, I never mention the line, I simply tested it and if a couple of you haters take issue with that, so be it as that is what those of us passionate about detailing do, we test, evaluate and make wise decisions from our findings.

Not quite sure about your “haters” remark, especially if it’s directed to me? What products you choose to test is obviously your business, which I’m totally fine with, but what I take issue with is how the people in the thread posted your video as some testament about how great the product is. And by my prior explanation how the video shows glorious before footage and mediocre afters really doesn’t give the product reinforcing credibility from a “passionate detailers” perspective. If you feel otherwise then by all means elaborate so I can understand how it has.

I evaluated the DITEC line, I performed an overview on the application process and shared that process with Gerry and Lauren and I am age and durability testing the product at this time. I also have another five product lines that I am doing the same with, that is simply what many of us that are picky do with products before we are willing to adopt the products into our systems.

I respectfully agree and would love to find out how the product actually performs compared to how it is pitched to perform.

To install DITEC, you need to be a licensed service center as I understand it and I am NOT a DITEC service center, I performed testing, evaluation and provided my input and concerns as they asked. I do the same with many, including Jason Rose of Meguiars, Shell Oil, who has owned many chemical lines, DRC pads, Lake Country, who I have given input on items for years, Grit Guard, Ragg Topp, CAR Products, Flex Tools and other hitters within the industry. Like many I you, I also do an enormis amount of testing on my own and test endless lines each year.

Ok.

One person challenge I would remove the video? I won't as it's not about a product, it's about what two brand new detailers did with that car. Also, DiTec may or may not be attractive to us as pro level detailers but why would I assassinate a line, that is not me and it's not professional. You and I as professional detailers test many main stream products we may not like, but others may like it and someone worked hard to develop that product and I simply will not assassinate a line as some do within a public forum, it's just not my thing or my way.

Forgive me for being so critical, but how does the video show what these people did when the afters are not truly exposed? Nobody ever asks for a product to be assassinated, but people (detailers and manufacturers), rely on detailers (especially pros) to be as truthful as possible when testing a product. The last thing I’d want to do is buy a product that a well known detailer has tested just to find it to be sub-par or nothing special. Besides seeing the outcome in person, nothing better reinforces the findings of a product or a person’s abilities then after shots that truly allow people to compare and contrast from the befores that were taken. I just feel that the video doesn’t do that. Sorry, just my opinion.

This product is only a protective and beautification product and the corrective work Gerry and Lauren did on that vehicle was amazing. Like any other product that protects or deepens the paint system, that products results are only as good as the foundation we create during the corrective stages of the project and these two brand new pro detailers did an amazing job and the video was more about their achievements on the car.

“Brand new pro detailers”? That’s an interesting characterization? Like you stated, I’d be willing to bet that 99.9% of anyone that knows the 1st thing about paint correction will agree with you that what goes on top of the paint is minuscule compared to the foundation created below it. That’s why when someone praises how great a sealant/wax turned their paint finish around it raises a lot of red flags.

For you haters, I pity you as your lack of professionalism I am sure is a major stumbling block within your career and life. For those who responded with professionalism and respect within this post, thank you for being true pro's. Some of you I have met and know and thus you and I don't need to prove anything by being e-thugs hiding behind a key board. Pro's like you and I are true professionals dedicated to the art and the business of detailing.

No comment as I think my comments above are as professional as possible. Looking forward to your replies and further contributions….

 

[C. Charles Hahn]

Don't hold your breathe on that one. Not unless you allow him to spam us with links to his website like he does on other forums.

I'm sure he's more than welcome to become a sponsor....

 

[Batman75]

I have no facts about this product, but one thing I do know is that one of Ditec's certified detailers, happens to be my weekly maintenance wash and detail guy. He hasn't offered any other coatings other than Ditec which is why I didn't get my car coated with him. However, he has been doing maintenance washes on my Lexus which is layered with CQuartz, and my sense from speaking with him is that he thinks the CQuartz is a better product. I suspect this guy will switch to offering CQuartz and Opticoat soon enough.