Cquartz Fabric & Leather

[Swanicyouth]

FWIW, this is a video of the Swissvax leather cleaner brush in action and just how to use it. I've used it many times in my black seats and it doesn't scratch.

Swissvax Leather Care Products Guide. - YouTube

 

[Ronkh]

I may have one since my kid brought some of my stuff down

coolness

 

[Avi@CarPro]

Hi Scott,

i see this post only now, after Corey made me noticed,
as i answered Corey about your problem by mail, i have few questions for you:

how did you clean EXACTLY the seats pre coating? did you use some kind of brushing while cleaning? did you use strong APC to clean pre coating?
from absorbing your pics sent to me , if you look very carefully you see that these white spots are only inside the pores holes of the leather , never on top of the surface "hills" ,
it could be two options :

1. it looks like hard brushing or strong cleaner that damaged the dye color of the leather. if the leather dye color quality is not high made.
im not trying to blame you or say its not the coat, i just say from my professional experience and from the short info we know about your problem , this is first option, while cleaning the leather there was too abrasive with strong cleaner that damaged the dye color of the leather. see carefully that the white dots are inside the leather pores only.

2. the leather you have has big pores structure ,after applying the coat, while wiping off the residues the surface was pores so there were left overs from the coat inside the pores , not remove well enough , leaving "thick" dot spots in them . as much as it is very durable coat , alkyl base solution such as APC (more than 10 pH) will remove the coat! its not permanently bonded to the leather paint.
it could be more likely option 2. you need to see gently if you try to "grind" one dot from the pores if it comes of, with small pin or something. if it does so yes its coating residue.

if you used APC , 3 times as you say im sure that the leather is not coated anymore now at least not on most of the leather surface, you can check if its hydrophobic surface , if not the coat is gone. which after APC im almost sure it is .

try first to test if you can remove one dot spot, if yes so you know its from the coat. then to remove them i would warm the leather so the pores will open more widely, expending, and use the brush you posted with APC without too much force , softening the surface will help better to enter the pores and remove these, if its coating residues!!

blaming us or the coat is easy , but sometimes user error as well can be factor for bad results,
we will help you as much as we can , Carpro never disclaim from responsibility if its product fault. Specially if it Corey involved and me.

try the tips above and lets see what exactly is the problem.

 

[Ronkh]

Hi Scott,

blaming us or the coat is easy , but sometimes user error as well can be factor for bad results,
we will help you as much as we can , Carpro never disclaim from responsibility if its product fault. Specially if it Corey involved and me.

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Well, there you have it.

At least they will "help you as much as" they can. When I had a problem, I was pretty much told your fault, oh well, left out on my own.

PLEASE KEEP US ADVISED AS TO HOW MUCH THEY "HELP"

Nothing to see here.

 

[Ronkh]

Funny though, I saw Avi on the forum yesterday about 1115 eastern time

 

[Ronkh]

Was this sprayed directly on seat? If so, I stand by my thought before that it's the sprayer, and those are concentrated droplets that weren't gotten with a wipe.

 

[Ronkh]

Hi guys

CQ fabric use solvent carrier , the spray trigger now(chinese made) is too sensitive to the solvent
soon we will change the bottle and the trigger for much better so it wont leak or get blocked

CQ fabric has long durability against washes or high alkaline cleaners, which most used on soft tops, i would believe that it will out perform any other fabric sealant which based on polymers

Avi

as I said

 

[Ronkh]

Hi Scott,

i see this post only now, after Corey made me noticed,
as i answered Corey about your problem by mail, i have few questions for you:

how did you clean EXACTLY the seats pre coating? did you use some kind of brushing while cleaning? did you use strong APC to clean pre coating?
from absorbing your pics sent to me , if you look very carefully you see that these white spots are only inside the pores holes of the leather , never on top of the surface "hills" ,
it could be two options :

1. it looks like hard brushing or strong cleaner that damaged the dye color of the leather. if the leather dye color quality is not high made.
im not trying to blame you or say its not the coat, i just say from my professional experience and from the short info we know about your problem , this is first option, while cleaning the leather there was too abrasive with strong cleaner that damaged the dye color of the leather. see carefully that the white dots are inside the leather pores only.

2. the leather you have has big pores structure ,after applying the coat, while wiping off the residues the surface was pores so there were left overs from the coat inside the pores , not remove well enough , leaving "thick" dot spots in them . as much as it is very durable coat , alkyl base solution such as APC (more than 10 pH) will remove the coat! its not permanently bonded to the leather paint.
it could be more likely option 2. you need to see gently if you try to "grind" one dot from the pores if it comes of, with small pin or something. if it does so yes its coating residue.

if you used APC , 3 times as you say im sure that the leather is not coated anymore now at least not on most of the leather surface, you can check if its hydrophobic surface , if not the coat is gone. which after APC im almost sure it is .

try first to test if you can remove one dot spot, if yes so you know its from the coat. then to remove them i would warm the leather so the pores will open more widely, expending, and use the brush you posted with APC without too much force , softening the surface will help better to enter the pores and remove these, if its coating residues!!

blaming us or the coat is easy , but sometimes user error as well can be factor for bad results,
we will help you as much as we can , Carpro never disclaim from responsibility if its product fault. Specially if it Corey involved and me.

try the tips above and lets see what exactly is the problem.

In the quote above you said it would not wash off easy????????

 

[XxBoostinxX]

Hi Scott,

i see this post only now, after Corey made me noticed,
as i answered Corey about your problem by mail, i have few questions for you:

how did you clean EXACTLY the seats pre coating? did you use some kind of brushing while cleaning? did you use strong APC to clean pre coating?

I used optimum power clean which is leather safe. Then wiped with a microfiber towel.

from absorbing your pics sent to me , if you look very carefully you see that these white spots are only inside the pores holes of the leather , never on top of the surface "hills" ,

Yes, I see that. That is the coating that won't come out! Every time I clean it they disappear and come back when the leather dries. Isn't it hydrophobic but can absorb water? At least that what it does on your YouTube video does. Every time I clean with optimum power clean it appears to be gone and comes back.

it could be two options :

1. it looks like hard brushing or strong cleaner that damaged the dye color of the leather. if the leather dye color quality is not high made.
im not trying to blame you or say its not the coat, i just say from my professional experience and from the short info we know about your problem , this is first option, while cleaning the leather there was too abrasive with strong cleaner that damaged the dye color of the leather. see carefully that the white dots are inside the leather pores only.

2. the leather you have has big pores structure ,after applying the coat, while wiping off the residues the surface was pores so there were left overs from the coat inside the pores , not remove well enough , leaving "thick" dot spots in them . as much as it is very durable coat , alkyl base solution such as APC (more than 10 pH) will remove the coat! its not permanently bonded to the leather paint.
it could be more likely option 2. you need to see gently if you try to "grind" one dot from the pores if it comes of, with small pin or something. if it does so yes its coating residue.

If it is #1, and the leather has been damaged from harsh chemicals wouldn't I see it somewhere other than the pours/cracks of the leather? Wouldn't there would be some sign of it somewhere else on one of the 4 seats? ALL MY SEATS LOOK LIKE THIS! I find it nearly impossible/improbable that out of the 4 seats it to would be exactly the same on each.

If something that is more than 10 ph can remove the coat, then why beat around the bush and just say that? How about ammonia? It has a pH level of 11.

I can pick at one of the dots and get it to somewhat move and sometimes go away. But what am I suppose to do? Pick at all 4 of my seats..... I'll be here for awhile.

I will try this, but it isn't the "hills" of the leather we are talking about. So I don't see why that will matter other then you trying to prove it can be removed from a larger surface. When it isn't being removed from the deeper sections that we are worried about.

try first to test if you can remove one dot spot, if yes so you know its from the coat. then to remove them i would warm the leather so the pores will open more widely, expending, and use the brush you posted with APC without too much force , softening the surface will help better to enter the pores and remove these, if its coating residues!!

Late last night I took a "my little steamer" that is used for clothes at a final attempt to see if I could get anything off. It seemed to somewhat help on one of the horizontal lines. The residue was really bad on this particular area, but some still is there. I will provide proof that it is coating residue shortly.

blaming us or the coat is easy , but sometimes user error as well can be factor for bad results,
we will help you as much as we can , Carpro never disclaim from responsibility if its product fault. Specially if it Corey involved and me.

try the tips above and lets see what exactly is the problem.

I understand, there can be user error in anything. But blaming the user is even easier then the product.

 

[Swanicyouth]

A MF towel will be useless to remove this coating on grained leather IMHE. I know this - because I've tried it with this product. This is because the towel won't get in the valleys of the grain effectively to remove the sticky coating. I think I may have had a few of these white spots around the stitching on my leather, I just checked and they are not there. So, I know I was able to effectively remove the coating with the described brush and a higher pH cleaner.

I think it's the combination of the cleaner and the mechanical agitation of the brush that will do the trick. Looking at the photos, the seats do not look damaged. It looks like build up of product in the grain. This coating can be quite tough to remove, so I think waiting for it to "wear off" is probably not an acceptable option.

 

[XxBoostinxX]

A MF towel will be useless to remove this coating on grained leather IMHE. I know this - because I've tried it with this product. This is because the towel won't get in the valleys of the grain effectively to remove the sticky coating. I think I may have had a few of these white spots around the stitching on my leather, I just checked and they are not there. So, I know I was able to effectively remove the coating with the described brush and a higher pH cleaner.

I think it's the combination of the cleaner and the mechanical agitation of the brush that will do the trick. Looking at the photos, the seats do not look damaged. It looks like build up of product in the grain. This coating can be quite tough to remove, so I think waiting for it to "wear off" is probably not an acceptable option.

Which pH cleaner were you using Swanicyouth? The Sonus All-In-One?

I'm attempting to to use Lexol, a tooth brush (suggested by Corey), and a little steamer. It seems to have helped in the stitching some. But I have two high spots that won't go away.

Picking at it with my fingernail:

High spots:

I tried to use OPC with a foaming trigger on the high spots and they didn't budge.

 

[Ronkh]

I'm still finding it somewhat annoying that you/me have had to spend dozens of hours fixing problems.

Well, I see Avi is looking at this thread, lets see what he has to say. (btw avi, while you're looking, please look at my reload problem thread.)

 

[Swanicyouth]

The latest stuff I used was the OTC Megs stuff that came in the Gold Class Leather Sealant kit (pH ~ 10 to 11) - "Prep". I seem to recall DP Interior Cleaner working as well. This is the stuff that removed it for me:

Lexol is pH neutral. Don't think it will work:

 

[The Guz]

FYI Meguiar's Leather & Vinyl Cleaner is a replacement for the cleaner in the Leather Sealer System that is posted up above. You can get both locally.

 

[Stokdgs]

I have that SwissVax brush and have about worn it out from use on leather seats, panels, etc... Mostly leather seats, which always have the most issues... It is really a great, well made, perfect bristles brush...
Need to get another one... This one I have came from when Phil was selling SwissVax products - wonder if he still sells this line....
Dan F

 

[Ronkh]

I had the sw brush as well

it was great

 

[Ronkh]

Bumping this thread since both Corey and Avi are on.

Lets see if they can offer constructive help

 

[Ronkh]

Still no response ^_^

 

[CEE DOG]

Still no response ^_^

Your wrong.... I've been texting with him and testing solutions and sending him the products needed.

Once again this is Autogeeks forum and I do not frequent it. I'm here today because I've been pointed this way by others that saw these posts.

I am not associated with Autogeek or Autopia. I at one time sponsored a forum owned by 3D and they gave that subforum to Autogeek.

There are wonderful people I care for at AG and Autopia but my business is not associated with theirs. My customers call and text me and are answered at almost anytime day or night.

Best regards,
Corey

 

[Stokdgs]

I get what you are saying - - - - So, then Who is the support for CarPro if one has an issue ?

You dont frequent some of the biggest Forums that have stores that sell the same products, so does anyone at CarPro do this ?

Do you only work with your customers and not the rest of the customers using the CarPro line ??

I need to get a clarification in case I decide to start using your product line..

Dan F