Cquartz Fabric & Leather

XxBoostinxX

XxBoostinxX

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DO NOT USE IT. For the past few months I have been battling an ongoing war with this product because it has began to leave white spots on my black leather seats. I have tried to clean my seats 3 times now with OPC at full strength and all it does is laugh at it. Apparently it cannot be removed! If I knew this ahead of time there is NO WAY I would of used it. Enjoy the pictures of my now ruined, never reproduced, Saleen seats.

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I only used it on my steering wheel (no problem) and on carpet and floor matts.

The floor matts are another story. They seem to be a dirt magnet. I'll post pics tomorrow.


I do remember that you said something about this a long time ago. In my hack estimation, the sprayer on these bottles has a lot to be desired. It is either a weak spray, or if it sprays stronger, little drops come out as well as mist.


This for me is just another example of carpro putting out merchandise that IMHO is not ready for prime time.


I'm sorta waiting for someone to come on here and say it was your fault, that you didn't do something right. Or a few "authorized installers" will start saying they never have problems, and/or start posting some jobs they did with said product. (these I have seen on other forums)
 
Ronkh said:
I only used it on my steering wheel (no problem) and on carpet and floor matts.

The floor matts are another story. They seem to be a dirt magnet. I'll post pics tomorrow.


I do remember that you said something about this a long time ago. In my hack estimation, the sprayer on these bottles has a lot to be desired. It is either a weak spray, or if it sprays stronger, little drops come out as well as mist.


This for me is just another example of carpro putting out merchandise that IMHO is not ready for prime time.


I'm sorta waiting for someone to come on here and say it was your fault, that you didn't do something right. Or a few "authorized installers" will start saying they never have problems, and/or start posting some jobs they did with said product. (these I have seen on other forums)
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I have already received the "it's not the products fault" from CarPro.

They are also saying its "semi-permanent".... I guess that's why it's coming off my leather seats so easily now (sarcasm) .
 
XxBoostinxX said:
I have already received the "it's not the products fault" from CarPro.

They are also saying its "semi-permanent".... I guess that's why it's coming off my leather seats so easily now (sarcasm) .
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mebbe time to put reviews on aa store and ag store

but the fact that it's semi-perm, might at this point make life easier


but what do I know, i'm just a hack
 
Ronkh said:
mebbe time to put reviews on aa store and ag store

but the fact that it's semi-perm, might at this point make life easier


but what do I know, i'm just a hack
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His point on it being semi-permanent was that it will "eventually" wear off. Which could be tomorrow or next year. But at what point do I live with the spots?

You don't give yourself enough credit Ron. If you decide to try the Black Label do a test spot on the bottom somewhere first. I wish I would of .
 
Sorry to hear about your leather seats I would be real pissed! If OPC didn't work I dont know what will. I have had good luck using Ultima Interior Shampoo and a steamer. I have never tried to remove CQF&L but its worth a shot.
 
rbss said:
Sorry to hear about your leather seats I would be real pissed! If OPC didn't work I dont know what will. I have had good luck using Ultima Interior Shampoo and a steamer. I have never tried to remove CQF&L but its worth a shot.
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Thanks bud. Believe me I am mad as crap. Especially when it is perceived as my fault and not the product. If you are going to sell and support a product, then you should stand by it!

I was thinking about going that route. I have never used a steamer though. Do you know if there is anywhere to rent one?

The Guz said:
Sorry to hear about your leather. Hopefully it does wear off. I would be upset as well.



That would be good to do. Plus you also get points for doing do :cool:
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Thanks bud. I'm glad I am not the only one that would be mad. It's almost like I felt crazy for being upset.

The problem with leaving a review is its the previous C&L, not the "updated" version. I think I'm done with CarPro.
 
XxBoostinxX said:
Thanks bud. Believe me I am mad as crap. Especially when it is perceived as my fault and not the product. If you are going to sell and support a product, then you should stand by it!

I was thinking about going that route. I have never used a steamer though. Do you know if there is anywhere to rent one?.
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I'm not sure where to rent one maybe Lowes, home Depot? If your a part time detailer or weekend warrior I would look at buying one it is very handy. The Mcculloch 1275 is a good steamer without spending a butt load of money lol.
 
XxBoostinxX -

Wow - so sorry to see what happened to your beautiful Saleen seats..

How did the product act on your seats when you first put it on ? Slippery? Sticky? Grabby? ???

Is the product that bright white color ? And it somehow stuck to the leather and wont come off but only on a few places ?

When you talked to Corey about it, what did he tell you to do ? He has been around a long time and always seemed to be a very straight up guy to me...

Has Carpro done anything to try to help mitigate this for you ? Any Carpro Installers in your area ??

If you decide to use Steam, please be careful, and not get everything too hot...

I only steam using my VX5000 and the big triangular brush with a white towel, 2 layers over the brush head and pulled tight and velcro'd to the brush stem..

Have these seats sat out in the sun for a long enough time to really get them really hot before ?

Do you have any Leather Masters Cleaners available to try on just a little spot to see what happens ?

I have steamed hundreds of leather seats using Zaino Z9 Leather Soft Cleaner sprayed on the seats and lightly brushed in, then steamed, then wiped off carefully with clean white cotton towels to see what is coming off or not...

The Z9 has worked really great on about every make and model leather, and always left them really clean and soft, and ready for whatever leather conditioner you want to put on them..

Again, sorry this had to happen..

Good luck with this !
Dan F
 
rbss said:
I'm not sure where to rent one maybe Lowes, home Depot? If your a part time detailer or weekend warrior I would look at buying one it is very handy. The Mcculloch 1275 is a good steamer without spending a butt load of money lol.
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That is the one I was just looking at lol. I guess it's time I get one anyway. I hear I can use it all over the house so might as well. Thanks again for your input. It's much appreciated bud.

Stokdgs said:
XxBoostinxX -

Wow - so sorry to see what happened to your beautiful Saleen seats..

How did the product act on your seats when you first put it on ? Slippery? Sticky? Grabby? ???

Is the product that bright white color ? And it somehow stuck to the leather and wont come off but only on a few places ?

When you talked to Corey about it, what did he tell you to do ? He has been around a long time and always seemed to be a very straight up guy to me...

Has Carpro done anything to try to help mitigate this for you ? Any Carpro Installers in your area ??

If you decide to use Steam, please be careful, and not get everything too hot...

I only steam using my VX5000 and the big triangular brush with a white towel, 2 layers over the brush head and pulled tight and velcro'd to the brush stem..

Have these seats sat out in the sun for a long enough time to really get them really hot before ?

Do you have any Leather Masters Cleaners available to try on just a little spot to see what happens ?

I have steamed hundreds of leather seats using Zaino Z9 Leather Soft Cleaner sprayed on the seats and lightly brushed in, then steamed, then wiped off carefully with clean white cotton towels to see what is coming off or not...

The Z9 has worked really great on about every make and model leather, and always left them really clean and soft, and ready for whatever leather conditioner you want to put on them..

Again, sorry this had to happen..

Good luck with this !
Dan F
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If I can recall, at first it was somewhat grabby.

Yes, it's the bright white specks that seem somewhat embedded into the leather. No, they won't come off at all. Even if I take my fingernail and try to scratch at it... It does nothing.

I talked to Corey through email. He has never seen or heard of this before. At first he said there was little to nothing I could do. Then when I seemed like my seats were ruined, "oh it's semi-permanent and will eventually wear off through use". So....... He said to use some leather safe APC and rub it with a microfiber and follow up with a damp towel. It seemed to work at first, but then after a few minutes the white specks start showing back up. I'm guessing the water from the damp cloth is just evaporating.

These seats can get pretty hot in the summer. Actually hot enough to burn the crap out of you lol.

Never heard of Leather Master Cleaners bud? So, I'm not really sure.

If I decide to go that with the steamer YOU will be the first person I contact Dan.

Thank you for your input and concern bud, it's always very appreciated .

Edit: I do have a CarPro installer in my area and know him pretty well. I am gonna contact him and see what he says.
 
seems like the "stickiness" is a dirt magnet too


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unfortunately, I also coated the logo mats as well, so same thing is happening to them
 
XxBoostinxX said:
DO NOT USE IT. For the past few months I have been battling an ongoing war with this product because it has began to leave white spots on my black leather seats. I have tried to clean my seats 3 times now with OPC at full strength and all it does is laugh at it. Apparently it cannot be removed! If I knew this ahead of time there is NO WAY I would of used it. Enjoy the pictures of my now ruined, never reproduced, Saleen seats.

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Hey, Boostin; I got your PM but thought I would answer here because it may help someone else. I think the white spots you are seeing are collections of hardened F & L in the "grain" of the leather. Since its a "coating", it is difficult to remove.

However, I have figured out a way that has worked for me to remove F & L from leather. You need the Swissvax Leather Cleaner Brush and some pH basic leather cleaner. The OTC Megs leather cleaner I believe is "basic", if you don't have anything else. I wouldn't recommend APC, but if your going to use APC, use one that gives leather as one of its recommended dilutions (like Sonus All In 1).

What your going to do is gently scrub the seat using the cleaner you choose and the leather brush, just like Swissvax demos on their You Tube video. I'm specifically recommending this brush, because the bristles are perfect to deep clean leather - but not damage it. This has removed F & L for me. No towel will remove F & L from leather as grainy as yours.

I believe the bristles are nylon / plastic; but they are just the right stiffness to get in recessed portions of the leather grain. The brush can be shipped to your door from somewhere like EBay or Amazon for under $20. It's also just a good brush to have to clean leather.

FWIW, Leather Master's Strong Cleaner is pH neutral.

.....More user error from CarPro users. Lol
 
Swanicyouth said:
Hey, Boostin; I got your PM but thought I would answer here because it may help someone else. I think the white spots you are seeing are collections of hardened F & L in the "grain" of the leather. Since its a "coating", it is difficult to remove.

However, I have figured out a way that has worked for me to remove F & L from leather. You need the Swissvax Leather Cleaner Brush and some pH basic leather cleaner. The OTC Megs leather cleaner I believe is "basic", if you don't have anything else. I wouldn't recommend APC, but if your going to use APC, use one that gives leather as one of its recommended dilutions (like Sonus All In 1).

What your going to do is gently scrub the seat using the cleaner you choose and the leather brush, just like Swissvax demos on their You Tube video. I'm specifically recommending this brush, because the bristles are perfect to deep clean leather - but not damage it. This has removed F & L for me. No towel will remove F & L from leather as grainy as yours.

I believe the bristles are nylon / plastic; but they are just the right stiffness to get in recessed portions of the leather grain. The brush can be shipped to your door from somewhere like EBay or Amazon for under $20. It's also just a good brush to have to clean leather.

FWIW, Leather Master's Strong Cleaner is pH neutral.

.....More user error from CarPro users. Lol
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Thank you Swanicyouth for the help. I will order one of those brushes and see if it makes a difference. I have a boars hair brush, but like you said it's entirely too soft. I ordered a leather brush from ACC a while back, but I think it's too stiff and might scratch the leather.

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The only ph neutral leather cleaner I have is Lexol. I also have some Mothers LeatherTech Foaming Wash. Not sure if it's ph balanced though, but I could give it a try.
 
Leather Masters Cleaner and Strong Cleaner is in my Shop and it works good on dirty spots..

I also have a collection of little leather brushes with those light colored tampico bristles..

They work and get the product into the valleys of the leather grain..

I remember once seeing a video of Jack, the man that used to own classic motoring accessories a few years ago, taking one of those little brushes to some leather and scrubbing the heck out of it.
He said he once took a leather coat or something to a leather shop and the owner did just that to the leather coat...

But, as has already been said, you have to really either know leather and the coatings it may have or be really careful that you dont hurt something...

The leather masters people used to have a guy - a real leather guy who would answer questions for people about anything that had to do with leather, coatings, etc., and wow, it was a real eye opener to see how many ways leather is treated, coated, etc., after the tanning process... Way too much information but still needed for those who work with auto leather seats all the time like me..

They sell some Leather Masters products here but they also sell them on Amazon..

From what you and RonK have indicated and from the pics I have seen, it appears to me that these products really coat the surfaces and dont necessarily want to come off - regardless how good or bad they look..

And CarPro makes NO Cleaner/Remover for their products ???? Unbelieveable... :( I have never used them and now for sure I will never use them..

Good luck !!
Dan F
 
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