Confused about Clearkote products

Wow Scott. I would of thought you had a supply of those already? You definetly make it look good no matter what you use!
 
teamvegas said:
Wow Scott. I would of thought you had a supply of those already? You definetly make it look good no matter what you use!



:) Thanks!



I already have purchased the Glanz Wax (two cans) and Optimum Car Wax-which is a great between wax job upsell about halfway between and still have samples of the others (except 845, I do have a half bottle of 870 though) but am getting low enough and like each product enough I'll be ordering them.
 
Scottwax said:
RMG is a true glaze, VM is a glaze/wax. I prefer RMG unless you have some very light swirls that need to be removed (light!) since VM does have light abrasives and RMG's cleaning properties are chemical. VM is a bit brighter looking, RMG appears wetter to me.



How do you feel the YMCW shapes up compares to the above, any swirl removers , chemical cleaners? or does it appear to be milder than both?



Cheers



Rich
 
SpoiledMan said:
Brings back a NICE level of slickness doesn't it.



That was a very pleasant suprise! Anthony said it looked good, but nothing about slickness. Seems decent when first applied but it definitely improves over time. CMW in November and fortified with OCW in early March is still going strong on a BMW 745 (I wash this one conventionally) in early May.



Rich-YCW seems to more of a pure glaze, doesn't seem to have any discernable cleaning or cutting properties beyond whatever carriers it might have and pad choice.
 
Scottwax said:
RMG is a true glaze, VM is a glaze/wax. I prefer RMG unless you have some very light swirls that need to be removed (light!) since VM does have light abrasives and RMG's cleaning properties are chemical.



I thought a true glaze doesn't have cleaning properties, either chemical or mechanical?
 
I don't know. I do know that VM has cleaning ability because it has very light abrasives as mentioned earlier. I'm not familar with RMG and that's why I asked the question. I'm not doubting the info that scottwax has shared, I'm just curious that's all. I don't claim to know everything, and I learn something everyday. I'm sure scottwax will chime in and give us some info.
 
To me it reads



Vanilla Moose - light abrasives



Red Machine Glaze - chemical cleaning properties



Yellow Moose Cream Wax - the mildest off the 3 any cut is caused by the pad.
 
III said:
I thought a true glaze doesn't have cleaning properties, either chemical or mechanical?



ANY product you apply to your paint is going to have at least some cleaning properties.
 
the real problem is that what one company calls a glaze another company might call a polish-it makes it hard to compare products by name alone
 
wannafbody said:
the real problem is that what one company calls a glaze another company might call a polish-it makes it hard to compare products by name alone



Yup very true. So, glaze and polish is the same?:nixweiss
 
I must say, I'm still a bit confused about all this.



If I was going to order a few CK products just to try out, for example, what would I need?



I will have polished the car (either SSR or Optimum)

What would be the next products, in order, I would use to achieve maximum depth and protection (from the CK line.)



VM has light abrasives, RMG has chemical cleaning agents (a la AIO?) so these two don't seem to be able to be used together. Moose Wax is a cleaner wax, so it couldn't be used over something without hindering the underlying product's foundation. Hmm. I just like QS so damn much that I'd like to give the other products a try, but they're awfully confusing to me.
 
Like they said earlier, there are a couple ways you can go. Assuming you've polished and have an LSP ready finish you could just put on CMW and be done with it, however you can probably get better depth using VM or RMG before the CMW, or both. VM and RMG work fine together, as a matter of fact I jsut got some VM and I think it looks awesome under RMG. Richt has done VM / RMG / YMC /CMW and it looked outstanding. I personally think you could skip YMC and probably not lose much depth/wetness.



My current combo post polish is VM / RMG / Poorboys ex w/carnauba / nattys blue. If you can make it deeper or wetter I'll buy you a cookie.
 
I use VM and RMG all the time. Yes the chemical cleaners in the RMG will remove the wax left behind by VM, but the VM is a great final polish by using the RMG it wont get rid of the greta job VM did of cleaning up the paint more afet the ssr's,the RMG then adds more wetness and depth to the paint than the VM did to, plus by leaving no wax behind the RMG should be an ok base for some sealants.



On dark colours the VM and RMG combo over paint polished with the SSR's has added more depth and wetness to the paint. On lighter colours or customers cars I would go with one or the other. For paint in need off more polishing use the VM, on paint in good shape but needing added wetness go with the RMG.



I am still a little unsure where the Yellow Cream wax fits in and what it may undo by using it, but after VM or RMG it makes the paint smoother and slicker still. As Picus said it doesnt add much more in the depth and wetness.



Currently on my car is VM/RMG/YCW/WG and Souveran X1, going to add another layer of that and then one off Nattys blue!
 
Richt said:
plus by leaving no wax behind the RMG should be an ok base for some sealants.

Richt, do you think that EX-P would fall into the category of a sealant that could be applied over the VM & RMG combo?



My finally topper will be Nattys Blue..but if my EX-P will make it look even better, than I am tempted to apply that, wait 24hrs and then apply a coat of Nattys Blue...



Thanks in advance.
 
I have used both EX and EX-p over VM and RMG. Not sure if durability is compromised but both look damn good.



I personally would use the EX-p first then top with the Nattys Blue.
 
Tyler, if you want to go the Clearkote route, *I* would Vanilla Moose / Carnauba Moose Wax / Quik Shine.
 
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