Collinite Fleet Wax vs. Powerlock

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Guitarist302008

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Ok, I know a lot of people are down on powerlock because it's not a real menzerna product or whatever the deal is. I will give my impressions. I picked up some Fleet wax at a local boat store, not a bad price for it and I know it's a lasting wax and durable. In fairness I just put this on my Wife's Honda a few days ago.


The other day however I was at my Mother's and her car was just dusty and dirty and needed a bath. All I had there was OS, so I figured I'd give the car a dawn bath with some hot water (since it was quite cold out). I got each panel done, but you could see where there was still something left. Then I recalled that I had put powerlock on the car. The thing is ... it was over 6 months ago. Now in fairness again, this is a garage kept car, but it sees it's fair share of weather as well. I was surprised.


 


The other thing that I have noticed about PL is that it is super slick. I can drive down the road and the water comes right up the windshield. It's the only sealant/wax that I have seen that will shed basically all of it's water with a 5-10 minute drive at 40-50 mph. The fleet wax is good and has a nice slickness as well. I will still use both. I'm just simply saying that those who hate PL for whatever reason IMO are missing out on a very good sealant with good water and dirt shedding abilities.
 
I'll say that Powerlock and Collinite 845 are my favorite two products for their different qualities. Powerlock honestly gives me slickness and beading for a year on garage kept cars. It's really incredible and I'll likely never stop using it. Go apply powerlock and then 4 months later powerwash the car, you'll have fun just watching the water dance off the paint. I know I did the first time I did that.


 


I've tried BlackFire Wet Diamond, thinking that it might be relabelled Powerlock but it is sorely disappointing when compared to Menzerna.


 


Who makes Powerlock for Menzerna anyways?
 
ill have to check on that after washing one car that hasnt been in 2 months but has PL on it. Off hand though, i've not noticed water/rain/bug etching with PL in the past, and i tend to let those things sit for awhile sometimes.
 
It seems that it has done well for me in the past with etching. I used the 885 fleet wax, and I am impressed with that as well. I just have yet to find a more slick, yet durable sealant thus far. There is nothing I have seen that will completely dry the hood while driving. A lot of waxes and such do well and just have a few beads.. the PL seems to sheet pretty much all of it off.
 
I've done some chemical testing trying to remove PowerLock and found the stuff to be CHEMICALLY virtually unstripable. The only thing I could spray and rub into it to remove the beading was wheel ACID. I tried IPA - no go. I didn't try mineral spirits, but ERASER didn't touch it. I've done similar tests with waxes and they are easily removed with any APC. So, I find this test valid, as some people will say the Dawn/APC/whatever is "hiding" the beading characteristics. Problem with that theory is, it doesn't hide them with PL.

My guess is PL is made by 4*
 
I believe that 4* makes bfwd which is why i thought it would be identical to pl save the color, but it's not. Maybe just different/proprietary formulation to menzerna.
 
Yeah, I remember a guy on here who was stripping his LSP's to prepare the car for OC and the PL held on after the typical methods had been used.
 
I really appreciate all the feedback on this, the PL had pretty much slipped under my radar.  I'm thinking "PL vs. FK1000P"...


 


Re its being made by 4 Star- note that their UPP is utterly terrible at resistance to etching; bugs eat the paint as if there were no LSP on it at all.
 
I think vs. 1000p you would find little comparison as far as durability. The FK's heat resistance is a good thing... I'm not sure how much heat resistance that PL has.
 
Well, heh heh, I don't want anybody holding their breath as I don't plan to actually *test* anything against the FK1000P in the foreseeable future since I'm 100% satisfied with it and have enough to last for a good long time.  But with all this praise for the PL I did get to thinking.


 


Note that (as regulars here have heard a zillion times) the FK1000P lasts an incredibly long time for me, a year isn't uncommon once I get a few layers on there.
 
Man i'll tell you... I honestly wish I knew how you got that much out of it. I think it's a great looking sealant. I LOVE the candy coating it gives. The PL is also easy to apply and remove and I could literally just put a coat on the car, let it sit all night and it just comes off smooth as glass. I would really recommend giving it a try. PM me and i'll send you a small sample if you've never used it and want to give it a shot on your hood or whatever. A little does go a long way.
 
by the way.... does anyone know how fleet wax or powerlock would go over FK1000? I actually have it on my car now, but I love to add more stuff lol.
 
Guitarist302008- Thanks for the offer, but I'm not experimenting on anything :lol:  But seriously, if I thought I'd actually use it I'd take you up on that and try it on some wheels or something, but the last few times people sent me stuff to try, well....those products are still just sitting here unused making me feel guilty.


 


It *is* weird how FK1000P experiences can vary so much though.  The roof of my Tahoe hasn't been redone for ages, *well* over 18 months, and the beading is just starting to degrade (still feels nice and slick, water blows right off it when I AirWand/etc.).  Can't help but think it's just really compatible with my Griot's Car Wash and that makes me nervous about trying the 3D Pink.


 


Heh heh, you *like* the FK1000P's looks whereas for me it's a bit of an acquired taste, though I have come to like it on the vehicles I have it on now.


 


The Collinite oughta go over it OK (FK's approach is to top it with their "Pink Wax" stuff) but I dunno about the PL as it can be weird which sealants and "sealanty LSPs" do/don't work OK together.
 
Accumulator said:
Guitarist302008- Thanks for the offer, but I'm not experimenting on anything :lol:  But seriously, if I thought I'd actually use it I'd take you up on that and try it on some wheels or something, but the last few times people sent me stuff to try, well....those products are still just sitting here unused making me feel guilty.


 


It *is* weird how FK1000P experiences can vary so much though.  The roof of my Tahoe hasn't been redone for ages, *well* over 18 months, and the beading is just starting to degrade (still feels nice and slick, water blows right off it when I AirWand/etc.).  Can't help but think it's just really compatible with my Griot's Car Wash and that makes me nervous about trying the 3D Pink.


 


Heh heh, you *like* the FK1000P's looks whereas for me it's a bit of an acquired taste, though I have come to like it on the vehicles I have it on now.


 


The Collinite oughta go over it OK (FK's approach is to top it with their "Pink Wax" stuff) but I dunno about the PL as it can be weird which sealants and "sealanty LSPs" do/don't work OK together.
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well, lets start with this question... how old or new is your FK? I initially thought mine was only 2 years old... however, I recall that I used it on my old Evo which was an 08... so that makes it ummm, 5 years old lol. A little off.
 
Switched to Poxy from Powerlock. Powerlock is oodles easy to use, goes on easy, comes off easy and I know its durable.
 
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