wannafbody
wannafbody
detail1 said:
Nope, polyethylene.
Collinite 845-A "winter" wax?
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Nope, polyethylene.
loveyourcar
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@Striker: The main ingredients of rust are contained in the steel to begin with. As far as the cause of rust all it takes is oxygen and moisture. Salt does hasten the process. I don't know about grime.
imported_BobbyG
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I'm getting in a little late here but in all the years, and they are many, that I've been detailing cars I can honestly say that I've never come across any other wax that lasts as long as Collinite 845.
The biggest complaint I have is it needs to come with a flip top spout to make using it easier.
The biggest complaint I have is it needs to come with a flip top spout to make using it easier.
845 definitely has some good longevity.
the three coats I put on in Thanksgiving are still going very strong, even through two noreasters and the assorted smaller storms.
I did notice that it's not as slick at shedding dirt or bird bombs as FK1000P.
The FK seems to let everything slide off with very little effort.
Which of the two is more durable in the long term has yet to be decided.
the three coats I put on in Thanksgiving are still going very strong, even through two noreasters and the assorted smaller storms.
I did notice that it's not as slick at shedding dirt or bird bombs as FK1000P.
The FK seems to let everything slide off with very little effort.
Which of the two is more durable in the long term has yet to be decided.
jimmie jam
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i have been using 845 since 1973. it gets used on my DD and all of my GQ's. prep well, apply properly and enjoy the protection. collinite products are the best OTC out there, IMHO. i still don't understand why some say that it doesn't have any depth or gloss.
Save the trees, use a sealant-mostly kidding...
I have gone synthetic and ain't never going back-but all this talk of wax and carnuba really gets me blasting back to my halcyon zymol days. I would read about yellow v white carnuba, how difficult it was getting the material, and you really should message the stuff in your hands before you put it on.
Funny but the stuff lasted just about as long as it took to put on....
I did go to the Collinite site and to my surprise is mentioned as an electrical insulator, gotta get me some and be sure I dip my hands into it before each service call-ever stick your mitts into a j box and grab a wire nut that the homeowner put a solid conductor right through?, ashamed to say it happened to me twice, what does that tell you.:shocked
I have gone synthetic and ain't never going back-but all this talk of wax and carnuba really gets me blasting back to my halcyon zymol days. I would read about yellow v white carnuba, how difficult it was getting the material, and you really should message the stuff in your hands before you put it on.
Funny but the stuff lasted just about as long as it took to put on....
I did go to the Collinite site and to my surprise is mentioned as an electrical insulator, gotta get me some and be sure I dip my hands into it before each service call-ever stick your mitts into a j box and grab a wire nut that the homeowner put a solid conductor right through?, ashamed to say it happened to me twice, what does that tell you.:shocked
Striker said:
Yes, I do. Long story, short.
Bought my Accord new in 2002. Used various OTC products for 4 years. Never had an issue, car always looked better than most. Discovered Autopia, learned about Zaino so I bought Z2, ZFX, Z6, and Z8. The car never looked better. About a year later, I discovered severe water spot etching. I buffed off what I could but it was permanent. Heard about Zaino's lack of environmental protection so I switched to 845. Waited and waited for etching to return, never did. Been using 845 for two years. Got lazy, didn't feel like waxing it, even though it needed it, so, twice, I put a layer of Z8 on it after a weekly wash. A month later............................SOB! Etching is back, permanently damaging my clear coat. I buffed the car again getting it as best I could. Put a coat of 845 back on it. That was 6 months ago, haven't had an issue since. I sure do miss the look of Z2 on silver but, a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do to protect his car. BTW, I live in south Florida and the car sits outside all day while I'm at work and it is common to have a heavy downpour followed by intense sunshine. 845 is nearly bulletproof in this regard.
wannafbody
wannafbody
You can put Z8 over the 845. Personally, I haven't had any more issues with Zaino etching than any other product I've used. one thing I have noticed with Zaino is that contaminants sit on the surface of Zaino instead of being absorbed into the wax matrix.
Every manufacturer that markets both a 'wax' and a sealant will say the same thing;
waxes -generally- will make a finish appear a bit deeper (probably because of the solvents and oils added) and a sealant will protect longer, in my experience alot longer.
Like everything else it comes down to personal preference but there is nothing like the wax v sealant thread, always great fun.
waxes -generally- will make a finish appear a bit deeper (probably because of the solvents and oils added) and a sealant will protect longer, in my experience alot longer.
Like everything else it comes down to personal preference but there is nothing like the wax v sealant thread, always great fun.
wannafbody said:
I certainly don't want to bash Zaino because I have used it and loved the looks for a long time. My situation may be the exception, not the rule. I do hear a lot of people having the same issues, though. Me? My issues with Zaino don't come from reading a detailing forum, they are real life experiences on my own personal cars. Believe me, I wish I could still be using Z2. If I had a garage queen, I would be.
ThomasC said:
Waxes make a finish look considerably deeper, not just a bit. Solvents don't effect the appearance because they evaporate before removing the residue. Some waxes contain oils which add to the depth by 'wetting' the surface. Some sealants also contain oils for the same reason so it's not just waxes that use this approach. The biggest difference is the real wax molecules that create the perception of depth. This is true of all waxes, whether vegetable or mineral waxes.
The thing I like most about Collinite is the fact that it doesn't pretend to be something it's not. It's an all business, no nonsense product. No fluff marketing, no fancy packaging, no foo foo perfumes. It does what it does best, better than most, without having to have a "boutique" moniker attached to it. It's a great product and it's been around for years.
845 FTW!!
Just my opinion.
845 FTW!!
Just my opinion.
wannafbody
wannafbody
mborner said:
I totally understand. I have very hard water, so hard that if I spray the windshield and allow it to dry I have white spots that window cleaners can't remove-they sit on the surface. I see the same thing with Zaino-the deposits sit on the surface. My car has visible etching and pitting from before I tried Zaino. Our van has etching and I used 845 on it for several years. I don't know of any wax that protects long term from harsh environmental fallout-and believe me I tried a bunch.
Deep Gloss Auto Salon
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jimmie jam said:
Agreed.... testament to this are some pictures below.,..... remember, it's all in the prep!
*sorry for all the crazy angles in the pics**
Alfisti, the voc part of a solvent will evaporate or boil away but there are many different compounds in a solvent other than the voc's and these components will effect a gloss phenomena on a painted surface.
As for my own observations; no discernible difference in gloss with a 'wax' or Klasse and no discernible difference in gloss when SG is topped with any wax.
As I mentioned manufacturers state if maximum protection is required a sealant is the only way to go.
As for my own observations; no discernible difference in gloss with a 'wax' or Klasse and no discernible difference in gloss when SG is topped with any wax.
As I mentioned manufacturers state if maximum protection is required a sealant is the only way to go.
Deep Gloss Auto Salon
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Focus2069 said:
845 is not a pure wax but a wax / sealant hybrid - no need to use anything else for winter protection
Jesstzn
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On my winter beater I prepped as usual and did 1/2 the horizontal surfaces with 845 and Duragloss #105 and the #105 is holding up a lot better. Car sits outside all the time.