Carnauba Based Quick Detailer?

not carnauba based, but...



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I didn't like Crystal Mist. I'm prob. in the minority, but it just didn't work well with any LSP in total.



CG 1X w/Carnauba...diluted 1:1 is GREAT all around. Works on 'nuba's and sealants, no streaks, no worries, no problems.



Has a *little* stronger look if you use it straight, but it works really well 1:1 on a clean, dry surface.
 
shakashaunz said:
Suprised nobody mentioned Jeffs werkstatt carnauba glos. I dig the stuf,f brings a nice glow to the car after a wash.
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I like it a lot, but probably wouldn't recommend it if you weren't using other Werkstat products. Not that it would have compatibility issues, but that shipping would kill you on just a couple of bottles of detailer.
 
wfedwar said:
I like it a lot, but probably wouldn't recommend it if you weren't using other Werkstat products. Not that it would have compatibility issues, but that shipping would kill you on just a couple of bottles of detailer.
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Agreed on the shipping, that's what has kept me from buying anymore (Igot mine from the classifieds). I use strictly nuba paste waxes on my car and it works very well with them, Better than prima slick and almost as well as FK425.
 
shakashaunz said:
Agreed on the shipping, that's what has kept me from buying anymore (Igot mine from the classifieds). I use strictly nuba paste waxes on my car and it works very well with them, Better than prima slick and almost as well as FK425.
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Not trying to be a smart a**, but if it was almost as good as FK425... why not just use FK425?
 
Alfisti said:
Why do you want a carnauba-based QD? 845 isn't carnauba.
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I kinda categorize 476S as "not really (just) carnauba" too, but when FK425 gives me trouble on *that* Collinite I can avoid the problems by using the SpeedShine instead.



Now I'm not saying that 845 and 476S are all that similar or anything, but it wouldn't surprise me if the same potential for QD-compatibility issues were also there with 845, not that I've ever experienced them with it.
 
Legacy99 said:
Not trying to be a smart a**, but if it was almost as good as FK425... why not just use FK425?
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Because I have the werkstatt in my garage and am out of FK425. But I mostly used FK425 because the dust seemed to come off better when I took my car out on weekends. with the werkstatt I normally QD it after I uncover it and take it both. Both have a unique feel and look.
 
Alfisti said:
Why do you want a carnauba-based QD? 845 isn't carnauba.
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Good question. My main concern is compatibility. I know that , for the most part, sealants and waxes don't mix well. I want to make sure that if I washed my car, then quick detailed it, there would be no issues waxing it after a quick detail. I also want to avoid issues using a quick detailer over a fresh coat of 845.



As an example, I know that Z6 is sealant based and although I could put a coat of 845 on after a Z6 quick detail, I wouldn't be able to apply the Z6 after a fresh coat of 845. I just want compatibility in both directions.



I've given up on Z2, Z6, and Z8. Over the last three years, I've applied Z2, got severe water spot etching that permanently damaged the paint. I Buffed out what I could, applied 845 and haven't had a problem for a year. Two months ago, I got lazy and didn't feel like waxing the car so applied a coat of Z8 and guess what? Yep, severe etching is back. The 845 put an armor shield on the paint and water would not etch.



So, I'm looking for a quick detailer that completely harmonizes with 845.

Thanks. :)
 
mborner said:
Good question. My main concern is compatibility. I know that , for the most part, sealants and waxes don't mix well. I want to make sure that if I washed my car, then quick detailed it, there would be no issues waxing it after a quick detail. I also want to avoid issues using a quick detailer over a fresh coat of 845.



As an example, I know that Z6 is sealant based and although I could put a coat of 845 on after a Z6 quick detail, I wouldn't be able to apply the Z6 after a fresh coat of 845. I just want compatibility in both directions.



I've given up on Z2, Z6, and Z8. Over the last three years, I've applied Z2, got severe water spot etching that permanently damaged the paint. I Buffed out what I could, applied 845 and haven't had a problem for a year. Two months ago, I got lazy and didn't feel like waxing the car so applied a coat of Z8 and guess what? Yep, severe etching is back. The 845 put an armor shield on the paint and water would not etch.



So, I'm looking for a quick detailer that completely harmonizes with 845.

Thanks. :)
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Wow... I ran into the same issue with the Z stuff and 845IW was my goto for a while, it works great, but don't get scared off every sealant. There are plenty that do just fine. I can say I have had no issues with extended use of M21 and water spot etching. Where do you live? We have pretty strong acid rain here in northern VA.
 
yakky said:
Wow... I ran into the same issue with the Z stuff and 845IW was my goto for a while, it works great, but don't get scared off every sealant. There are plenty that do just fine. I can say I have had no issues with extended use of M21 and water spot etching. Where do you live? We have pretty strong acid rain here in northern VA.
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Well, I think that's probably one of my problems. I live in South Florida and in the summer it often rains in the afternoon followed by intense sunshine, leaving beading water drops to sit there and bake on the car. Although the car is kept in my garage at home, it sits out all day while I'm at work.

I miss the magnificent look of Zaino but I have to do what I have to do to protect my cars. Maybe I'll give that M21 a look. Thanks.
 
mborner said:
The 845 put an armor shield on the paint and water would not etch.



So, I'm looking for a quick detailer that completely harmonizes with 845.

Thanks. :)
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Good point. :)



Although 845 isn't carnauba it *does* behave like a carnauba regarding etching.



Most Qd's won't effect the base protection layer (845) so go with what looks the best.
 
Alfisti said:
Good point. :)



Although 845 isn't carnauba it *does* behave like a carnauba regarding etching.



Most Qd's won't effect the base protection layer (845) so go with what looks the best.
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Thanks for the tip. :)
 
jermar said:
I'm surprised no one mentioned Optimum spray wax.
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I just was about to (although strictly speaking its a spray sealant rather than a Qd) but thought I`d check if anyone else has mentioned it first .:)
 
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