Best sealant to protect against water spots?

Thanks everyone! I appreciate all the great info so far!



Glad to hear of your positive experience with M21, yakky!



John, I've been able to remove all the water spots but perhaps two or three so far, and they are hard to see unless you know where they are. My concern is to keep the problem from getting worse. I like your suggestion to try a spray sealant like Hydro. Perhaps that or applying Z8 every time will help boost the protection more.
 
Striker, you can top Zaino if you want. Some people don't like the look of Zaino, but like the durability. I have always liked the look of Zaino, but when I got a black car, I decided to top with Souveran because ... well because the car is black! lol It does give more depth and a wetter look than Zaino. It just doesn't last very long.
 
+1 for upgp of fk 1000p. haven't used os long enough to know how well it works. initial impressions is its pretty good (only been on the car a week).
 
loco said:
Striker, you can top Zaino if you want. Some people don't like the look of Zaino, but like the durability. I have always liked the look of Zaino, but when I got a black car, I decided to top with Souveran because ... well because the car is black! lol It does give more depth and a wetter look than Zaino. It just doesn't last very long.
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I just put some Zaino on for the first time last week (Z2 to be exact) and found it very reflective especialy after topping it off with some Z8. I did however find my turtle wax platinum series paste wax made the car more deep.
 
wascallyrabbit said:
+1 for upgp of fk 1000p. haven't used os long enough to know how well it works. initial impressions is its pretty good (only been on the car a week).
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Awesome, I'm really anxious to try the UPGP!
 
just be sure to follow the directions and let it cure before adding more coats. three coats min is what i would put on. streaking=to much product being used.
 
wascallyrabbit said:
just be sure to follow the directions and let it cure before adding more coats. three coats min is what i would put on. streaking=to much product being used.
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Yup.



To this day, I can't apply that stuff without getting a few areas that have to be knocked down later with a QD.
 
loco said:
Thanks, NSXTASY! I'm going to give the UPGP a try and if that doesn't show improvement, I may try to find some 1000P.



Your car is gorgeous BTW! :)
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Remember that less is more with UPGP. I used 1/2 the bottle my first application b/c I wanted it to go on uniformally wet. Not the case. One spritz to prime the MF applicator and 1 spritz per pannel with the exception of the roof and hood where 2 may be needed. It does along way.



This stuff is great on black. If you apply too much and at first you probably will let it cure out for 12 hrs and then hit with the Ultima Quick Detailer and it will clear instantly.



I think you will love the UPGP. Makes the flat black look deep and the reflection as close to optically correct as I have ever seen. I was most impressed with how long it protected the car. Nothing seems to stick to it!



I suggest you prep the car as follows:



Dawn wash

Clay

Polish as necessary

Finish with UPGP for best adhesion

1 coat of UPGP wait 12 hrs another coat and then a thrid any time after 12 hrs.

This give you 3 layers with no or minimal contamination inbetween them.



You are set for a while. I add some not and then becasue it is so easy. I can re UPGP my whole car less than 10 minutes.



Enjoy.
 
SuperBee364 said:
UPGP and fk 1000p are two sealants capable of repelling water spots. Yeah, you'll still get water spots, but UPGP or 1000p will prevent the minerals from attaching to the clear coat, thereby preventing etching. Water spots are easily washed off of either of these sealants. Your Zaino water spot discovery was one of the reasons I stopped using Z, too.
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I agree with both but favor UPGP.
 
loco said:
Thanks, NSXTASY! I'm going to give the UPGP a try and if that doesn't show improvement, I may try to find some 1000P.



Your car is gorgeous BTW! :)
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Remember that less is more with UPGP. I used 1/2 the bottle my first application b/c I wanted it to go on uniformally wet. Not the case. One spritz to prime the MF applicator and 1 spritz per pannel with the exception of the roof and hood where 2 may be needed. It does along way.



This stuff is great on black. If you apply too much and at first you probably will let it cure out for 12 hrs and then hit with the Ultima Quick Detailer and it will clear instantly.



I think you will love the UPGP. Makes the flat black look deep and the reflection as close to optically correct as I have ever seen. I was most impressed with how long it protected the car. Nothing seems to stick to it!



I suggest you prep the car as follows:



Dawn wash

Clay

Polish as necessary

Finish with UPGP for best adhesion

1 coat of UPGP wait 12 hrs another coat and then a thrid any time after 12 hrs.

This give you 3 layers with no or minimal contamination inbetween them.



You are set for a while. I add some not and then becasue it is so easy. I can re UPGP my whole car less than 10 minutes.



Enjoy.
 
Thanks for all the tips, guys! I plan to use the UPGP this weekend and hope to get at least two layers on, maybe three if time allows. I understand the "apply thin" method since I've been using Zaino Clear Seal. However, all products are different so it's helpful to know that one spray per panel will do the trick. It's hard with these products because sometimes it's difficult to see if you're getting complete coverage on the car since you are trying to apply it so thin!



I also am planning to apply some Prima Amigo I just got prior to the UPGP. It is supposed to work with sealants and not cause any problems with bonding.



I just polished and clayed the paint a few weeks ago when I purchased the car. Then I put the Clear Seal on it but started noticing the water spotting issue.



Really looking forward to trying out these products! Thanks so much for all the help!
 
I applied UPGP last night to a white car. I used two spritzes on the applicator to prime the pad, then one spritz per panel, as per the instructions. I was working on a white car, so I couldn't see the effect of the vaporing. I also applied it to all the glass with the exception of the windshield.



If I remember, I'll post an update in about a week.
 
AeroCleanse said:
I applied UPGP last night to a white car. I used two spritzes on the applicator to prime the pad, then one spritz per panel, as per the instructions. I was working on a white car, so I couldn't see the effect of the vaporing. I also applied it to all the glass with the exception of the windshield.



If I remember, I'll post an update in about a week.
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Man, that must have been a PITA not seeing the vapor or "rainbow" effect. Watching for that effect is really the best way to know that you're still actually applying the product. Visible residue=too much.
 
I would go with Collinite or Klassse or Werkstatt the the Acrylics work really well against that.

Might want to try Meguiars 21/ NXT.
 
Well, I used Prima Amigo and UPGP yesterday for the first time. I applied Amigo with the PC and a grey finishing pad on speed 4. It was amazingly easy to use and left a very slick finish! It didn't take long at all for the Amigo to almost disappear, leaving only a slight bit to wipe off. Wiping it required almost no effort at all. It did seem to hide a few swirls, but nothing dramatic. However, I do believe it made the paint darker and I enjoyed that effect as my paint is straight black, no metallic flake.



Then, I tried UPGP. Despite all the warnings and my own experience with other WOWA products, I applied WAY too much. *D'oh!* I used one squirt per panel and that was big time overkill.



I waited until this morning (well over 12 hours) and went over it with Prima Slick QD, and it was very easy to remove, so not a huge deal. I put a second layer on this morning, much thinner, but I still bet I'll need to wipe some off tomorrow morning. This time, I used one squirt per two panels and it still seems to have gone on too thick.



If I get a chance I'll post a photo after this second layer has cured, but the weather may not cooperate tomorrow. After the QD wipe down, I was very impressed with the slickness. I don't know if it was Amigo, UPGP, or Slick (or all of them combined), but it was impressive, especially considering it's been almost a month since I clayed and polished. And the shine/wetness was excellent! To me, it seemed like a wetter/deeper look than I got with Zaino. However, the Amigo may have contributed to that. Regardless, I'm quite pleased.



I'm not sure if I'll go for the third layer of UPGP tomorrow or not. I'm fortunate that I'm off tomorrow but I do have to go to work at 6:30 Tuesday morning, so if I apply another layer and it requires any buffing, due to the cure time I would have to do it in the dark tomorrow night, which means I'd likely miss some. (The lighting in my garage is awful.)



Anyway, so far, so good! I really enjoy both products and am looking forward to seeing if UPGP will help with my water spotting problem! Thanks again to all for all of your recommendations and advice!
 
Three cured layers of UPGP topped with OID after every wash is great for preventing water spots. I actually use UPGP topped with P21S 100% topped with OID and have no problem with water spots, but without the OID the P21S 100% would really bring on the water spots.



Mind you I wash once a week so at the end of a rainy week the OID is not helping much. But for a couple of showers or one big storm, OID in itself I find to be great at preventing water spots. Plus, UPGP, while it looks great for a sealant, has that kind of sterile look, and you might like the pop OID gives it in regards to gloss.
 
tmg19103 said:
Three cured layers of UPGP topped with OID after every wash is great for preventing water spots. I actually use UPGP topped with P21S 100% topped with OID and have no problem with water spots, but without the OID the P21S 100% would really bring on the water spots.



Mind you I wash once a week so at the end of a rainy week the OID is not helping much. But for a couple of showers or one big storm, OID in itself I find to be great at preventing water spots. Plus, UPGP, while it looks great for a sealant, has that kind of sterile look, and you might like the pop OID gives it in regards to gloss.
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I've never tried OID. Maybe next time I need some QD, I'll try some. Just got the Slick and will be using that for some time.



wfedwar said:
I have found Werkstat Acrylic Jett much better than Zaino.
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Thanks for the recommendation!



So, OID and Werkstat Acrylic Jett. Two more things to go on my "need to try" list!
 
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