Best Products on White and Silver Cars

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SmoothAsGlass

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Up to now, I was using the following products on my silver and white cars:



- Clay

- CG SPEED WIPE SPRAY & Streak Free QUICK SHINE

- Klasse All In One

- Werkstat Acrylic Jett Trigger and Acrylic Glos

- Four Star Ultimate Paint Protection



Trying to simply things and order some new products. Seems my UPP has gone bad as I have not used it in a while.



Would appreciate suggestions and feedback on any better recommendations to go with instead of using Klasse All In One, Werkstat Acrylic Jett Trigger and Acrylic Glos, and Four Star Ultimate Paint Protection.



Is Werstat's Prime comparable to Klasse All In One? If so, was thinking of just using Prime and Acrylic Jett?



Also curious about the following: Mothers Reflections and Duragloss Aquawax when used along with Duragloss Total Performance Polish #105.



And still have heard 3D HD- Uno Auto Polish followed by 3D HD- Poxy produces amazing results, but not sure about it on light colors. And as for Meguiar's #16?
 
My favorite on white is Collinite 845IW. Megs #16. Its hard to say though without knowing what you really value most, durablity, ease of use, looks, etc. But 845 hits high on all those and is readily available.
 
You could always top your UPP with a carnuaba like P21s/S100. That especially makes silver look really slick. :thumb:
 
Actually never heard of Collinite 845IW. You recommending using that or Meg #16 or in addition to?



As for what I value most, I would say yes to all. Looking for the best all around with good value, some level of durability and easy to use and great looks. Might be asking for alot, but trying to simply from the products I currently am using.



Are you familiar with 3D HD- Uno Auto Polish followed by 3D HD- Poxy?





yakky said:
My favorite on white is Collinite 845IW. Megs #16. Its hard to say though without knowing what you really value most, durablity, ease of use, looks, etc. But 845 hits high on all those and is readily available.
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Thanks for the suggestion; never used it before.



So you just use Pinnacle Liquid Souverän or combine it with anything else? Does it work well applied by hand?





08xB said:
Pinnacle Liquid Souverän. Absolutely stunning on white.
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smoothasglass said:
Actually never heard of Collinite 845IW. You recommending using that or Meg #16 or in addition to?



As for what I value most, I would say yes to all. Looking for the best all around with good value, some level of durability and easy to use and great looks. Might be asking for alot, but trying to simply from the products I currently am using.



Are you familiar with 3D HD- Uno Auto Polish followed by 3D HD- Poxy?
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If you can find #16, go with that for sure, but 845 is a great sub. I'm very familiar with Uno and Poxy. Uno is hands down great. Poxy looks great but durablity and dirt retention have been issues for some.
 
Hmmmm, decisions, decisions, so #16, Uno and Poxy, or Pinnacle Liquid Souverän. Any real difference with the results of these 3?



Uno is a polish, but would you need to use one with #16 and Pinnacle Liquid Souverän?



Was still thinking of keeping Klasse All In One when needed and then following it with one of the above suggestions.
 
smoothasglass said:
Thanks for the suggestion; never used it before.



So you just use Pinnacle Liquid Souverän or combine it with anything else? Does it work well applied by hand?
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After I am done washing and or correcting, I apply it by hand. I put it over Menzerna Power Lock and it looks fantastic. It's kind of pricey, But it's my go to LSP for white or silver.
 
What qualities do you want to consider a wax or sealant the "best" on those colors?



The best combination of looks and durability would be either Optimum Opti-Seal + Optimum Car Wax or Collinite 476 + Optimum Car Wax. Both OS and 476 will have a great look on their own and have excellent durability, adding OCW on top adds very noticeable wetness, and in the case of 476, makes it shed dirt easier. 476 beads like crazy but the beads tend to stick to the paint, even when going 40-50 mph. Topping with OCW and you still get the great beading but the beads fly off faster and washing is a bit easier.
 
smoothasglass said:
Uno is a polish, but would you need to use one with #16 and Pinnacle Liquid Souverän?
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If your car is in great shape and you only want to add shine and protection, go with Poxy, #16, or Souveran. If you want to remove scratches, oxidation, or swirls, go with a polish such as Uno and finish up with one of the waxes you mentioned.
 
smoothasglass said:
Hmmmm, decisions, decisions, so #16, Uno and Poxy, or Pinnacle Liquid Souverän. Any real difference with the results of these 3?



Uno is a polish, but would you need to use one with #16 and Pinnacle Liquid Souverän?



Was still thinking of keeping Klasse All In One when needed and then following it with one of the above suggestions.
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Honesly, you'll get _WAY_ more shine from a polish than you will any of the mentioned waxes. If you haven't used a polish to perfect your finish, that is where you will notice a difference. Most of the suggested products will be great, but the polish will take it to the next level.
 
Not familiar with Menzerna Power Lock either. So you use Menzerna Power Lock and then Pinnacle Liquid Souverän. After the initial application, do you then apply additional applications of Pinnacle Liquid Souverän or use Menzerna Power Lock and then Pinnacle Liquid Souverän each time?





08xB said:
After I am done washing and or correcting, I apply it by hand. I put it over Menzerna Power Lock and it looks fantastic. It's kind of pricey, But it's my go to LSP for white or silver.
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Best all around with good value, some level of durability and easy to use and great looks. How does the Optimum line compare to #16, Uno and Poxy, or Pinnacle Liquid Souverän?



Scottwax said:
What qualities do you want to consider a wax or sealant the "best" on those colors?



The best combination of looks and durability would be either Optimum Opti-Seal + Optimum Car Wax or Collinite 476 + Optimum Car Wax. Both OS and 476 will have a great look on their own and have excellent durability, adding OCW on top adds very noticeable wetness, and in the case of 476, makes it shed dirt easier. 476 beads like crazy but the beads tend to stick to the paint, even when going 40-50 mph. Topping with OCW and you still get the great beading but the beads fly off faster and washing is a bit easier.
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My 2009 White MINI is in excellent condition so between something like #16, Uno and Poxy, or Pinnacle Liquid Souverän, would u just go with a polish like Uno or just one product such as Pinnacle Liquid Souverän or Menzerna Power Lock Polymer Paint Sealant and Pinnacle Liquid Souverän? Trying to keep it as simple as possible with as few products as possible. Have used UPP mostly up to now with claying twice a year or so then following it with Klasse All In One and using Werstat Acrylic Jett: Trigger and Glos in between.



Guess where I am confused on is whether to always use a polish and following it with a wax or synthetic sealant or solely use some type of polish?



yakky said:
Honesly, you'll get _WAY_ more shine from a polish than you will any of the mentioned waxes. If you haven't used a polish to perfect your finish, that is where you will notice a difference. Most of the suggested products will be great, but the polish will take it to the next level.
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On my white BMW i polished with Megs 80 and then used NXT and it look great. On my silver BMW I used AutoGlym HD an that is my favorite on that car. I am with the others the correct Polish is the key
 
Even though you think your finish is perfect, it is probably not, that is where the polish comes in. A true polish is an abrasive compound that will smoothen the finish and add shine. There are lots of products that are called polishes but they aren't, some companies use the term for a wax or LSP. Washing, claying, and regular day to day use all mar the finish reducing its shine. KAIO will remove oxidation, but it is not a real polish. If you really want extreme shine, you'll end up polishing twice a year for a daily driver. Certainly not every time you wax.



If you like simple, UNO is great. It has some good correction power and finishes down nicely as well. If you like Werkstat, Prime Strong wouldn't be a bad choice for an All-In-One (polish and LSP). I'm also a huge fan of Zaino AIO. If you have a Wal-Mart around or a decent auto parts store, grabbing a bottle of SwirlX wouldn't be a bad start either. I guess I'm not really helping by offering so many choices, but there are lots of products that work well.



And it sounds like you are going to be doing all of this by hand, which is a LOT of work. After some though, I'd really go grab some SwirlX, do a small 1x1' area and decide if:



a. you notice a big enough difference

b. want to rethink if you are going to do this by hand



You'll end up spending $8 and you'll have a direction to head towards.
 
Thanks for the great feedback; so is Swirlx comparable UNO?



I actually had a dual-action polisher a couple of years ago and always found it more of a hassle than it was worth. Not sure if I always ended up using more product than I should have, but it always seems to end up everywhere, all over the car i places I didn't want it to.



Going to Walmart this evening to pick up some Swirlx if they have it and will report back. If that seems to make a noticeable improvement, I guess what I am still trying to understand is it best just to wash and using something like Swirlx regularly or is Swirlx always best followed with a wax? Then after you wax would you come back a week or so later and repeat the same process?





yakky said:
Even though you think your finish is perfect, it is probably not, that is where the polish comes in. A true polish is an abrasive compound that will smoothen the finish and add shine. There are lots of products that are called polishes but they aren't, some companies use the term for a wax or LSP. Washing, claying, and regular day to day use all mar the finish reducing its shine. KAIO will remove oxidation, but it is not a real polish. If you really want extreme shine, you'll end up polishing twice a year for a daily driver. Certainly not every time you wax.



If you like simple, UNO is great. It has some good correction power and finishes down nicely as well. If you like Werkstat, Prime Strong wouldn't be a bad choice for an All-In-One (polish and LSP). I'm also a huge fan of Zaino AIO. If you have a Wal-Mart around or a decent auto parts store, grabbing a bottle of SwirlX wouldn't be a bad start either. I guess I'm not really helping by offering so many choices, but there are lots of products that work well.



And it sounds like you are going to be doing all of this by hand, which is a LOT of work. After some though, I'd really go grab some SwirlX, do a small 1x1' area and decide if:



a. you notice a big enough difference

b. want to rethink if you are going to do this by hand



You'll end up spending $8 and you'll have a direction to head towards.
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smoothasglass said:
Thanks for the great feedback; so is Swirlx comparable UNO?



I actually had a dual-action polisher a couple of years ago and always found it more of a hassle than it was worth. Not sure if I always ended up using more product than I should have, but it always seems to end up everywhere, all over the car i places I didn't want it to.



Going to Walmart this evening to pick up some Swirlx if they have it and will report back. If that seems to make a noticeable improvement, I guess what I am still trying to understand is it best just to wash and using something like Swirlx regularly or is Swirlx always best followed with a wax? Then after you wax would you come back a week or so later and repeat the same process?
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Walmart also sells Ultimate Polish and Ultimate compound that are pretty good. Try the Swirl X and if it doesnt do the job Use the Ultimate compound and if it is to strong use the Ultimate polish instead.



In level of ability to fix scratches from most abrasive to least.. The top three are availible at my walmart. I think this is how the Megs stuff goes



Ultmate compounf

Swirl X

Ultimate Polish

M80
 
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