before after rotary hologram

bluej511 said:
no pc for me i dont own one and dont plan to either, well if a white pad and op wont get scratches out why shouldnt i go to orange?
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I don't think Ryan is saying you shouldn't go to orange, just that you should go back to white to correct the paint even more after the orange... As you gain more experience, and try out yellow LC pads with a very abrasive compund, maybe Meg's #85 or OHC, you'll see how the yellow/OHC combo takes out pretty deep scratches, but makes many finer ones because it's so abrasive... this is what you correct with the less abrasive combos...
 
mm interesting so i should do OP/white x2 and if that doesnt cut it enough do OC/orange 1-2 passes then OP/white 1-2 passes and if done correctly i should have no holograms?



should i use the gray pad or blue pad to put on poli seal? i tried by hand on a small part of my hood and noticed that this stuff disappears quickly
 
bluej511 said:
mm interesting so i should do OP/white x2 and if that doesnt cut it enough do OC/orange 1-2 passes then OP/white 1-2 passes and if done correctly i should have no holograms?



should i use the gray pad or blue pad to put on poli seal? i tried by hand on a small part of my hood and noticed that this stuff disappears quickly
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Yea something like that... the things is though, you should be doing this OP/white 2x, OC/orange 1-2x, OP/white 1-2x, thing on one area, to see what each polish/pad combo does... that way you can go over the whole car faster and instead of doing OP/white then OC/orange, you'll know right away that OP/white won't cut it, so go straight to OC/orange, then refine later with 1-2x of OP/white

The holograms, as said before, are either too much product or user error with the machine, so don't expect the holograms to go away just because you make a certain amount of passes with a certain pad/polish combo... they WILL go away with OP/white if you use proper technique, use the right amount of polish and if there's nothing about the paint that would affect the outcome...



As for the Poli-seal, I've never used it so I can't say, but if it has any cutting power I would go with a white pad... hope this clears it up a bit...
 
yes this def those clear things up you guys are great.



I think ill go OP or OC on a white pad with a couple passes, lessen the holograms while im at it, then probably try poli-seal either on white or gray and see the outcome.



Ill probably try it on the roof to see what i come up with, try it in the garage then pull the car out and check.
 
bluej511 said:
yes this def those clear things up you guys are great.



I think ill go OP or OC on a white pad with a couple passes, lessen the holograms while im at it, then probably try poli-seal either on white or gray and see the outcome.



Ill probably try it on the roof to see what i come up with, try it in the garage then pull the car out and check.
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I wouldn't use OC with a white pad because it most likely wouldn't finish down LSP ready, and you'd have to go over it with OP/white anyway... What I'm trying to say is that if you're going to use OC, you should just use it with orange pad to increase cutting power a bit... if OC/white can remove the defect, so can OP/white 1-2x... just don't make more work for yourself haha

on the other hand, you might want to try out different products with different pads on a scrap panel... so OC/white OC/orange and OC/yellow and OP/white OP/orange... just to see what everything does... good luck bud
 
well ive tried the OP/orange and OC/orange on my hood already and with one pass of OC it took most of everything off except deeper scratches (its honda paint btw)



I've got that scrap hood sitting in my driveway looks like ill try it on that saturday first before i take anymore clear off my car haha.



But its aftermarket paint so im sure its thicker then what i have on my car so its gonna be different anyways



Thanks for the help man appreciate it
 
looks like im gonna go OP/white with a couple passes to start and if its not enough then go to orange, hopefully op/white wont leave me any holograms if i use smaller amounts of polish
 
something i found but dunno if its ever been posted or not..this is for the Lake Country CCS pads



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Sun came out during my lunch break and i went to look at my hood and of course some holograms were there, not as bad as before when i used an old dirty pad and megs step 2 polish.



Im gonna try OC with orange cuz i dont think that OP x2 on white or orange will cut it enough but ill try it.



Sorry for all the newb questions so if i OP/white a couples time with the right amount of polish i shouldnt be getting any holograms correct?



I might do poli/gray after words though
 
bluej511 said:
Sun came out during my lunch break and i went to look at my hood and of course some holograms were there, not as bad as before when i used an old dirty pad and megs step 2 polish.



Im gonna try OC with orange cuz i dont think that OP x2 on white or orange will cut it enough but ill try it.



Sorry for all the newb questions so if i OP/white a couples time with the right amount of polish i shouldnt be getting any holograms correct?



I might do poli/gray after words though
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Correct.. just remember to use very very little product... OP really takes too long to break down
 
alright well i used 4 (even smaller then pea sized dots) on a white pad and did my left fender.



The swirls remained even working it in for 5min @1400rpm this is white/OP, should i try white and OC next? i still get holograms like crazy
 
alright well im reporting back, i used a whole lot less OP, looks like a small piece of hair thats how little i used..i buffed @1400rpm until it was almost clear then buffed off with an MF.



Now that i tried this and moved a lot slower and did small areas, i still get very very very slight holograms, would poli-seal on black get rid of em or am i just doing something completely wrong?



i ended up taking paint right off my side view mirror to haha i got a pic of it though so no worries, it was already broken anyways and waiting for replacement
 
bluej511 said:
alright well im reporting back, i used a whole lot less OP, looks like a small piece of hair thats how little i used..i buffed @1400rpm until it was almost clear then buffed off with an MF.



Now that i tried this and moved a lot slower and did small areas, i still get very very very slight holograms, would poli-seal on black get rid of em or am i just doing something completely wrong?



i ended up taking paint right off my side view mirror to haha i got a pic of it though so no worries, it was already broken anyways and waiting for replacement
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How many passes with OP did you do to have the very very slight holograms left?

I would definitely try and borrow a RO from someone in the area, just to see if that would solve your problem. Sorry if I missed this, but what kind of car is that?
 
2002 Acura RSX. ive got an orbital that i bought from sears a long time ago but id like to be able to finish with a rotary since it seems to be a talent around here haha.



I did probably 2-4 passes. Might do another one though. Im using very very very small amounts of OP as well i mean idk if im not breaking it down long enough or whats going on
 
Oh and im thinking maybe doing OP with gray pad to finish it up or poliseal and gray to finish it up and hopefully they'' be gone



P.S. I just ordered (from AG) 2 new white pads, 2 green pads, and 1 gray/black pad along with some optimum wax.
 
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