Are you part of the solution?

Do you have what it takes to be a pro

  • I detail for money, and comply to all the above.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I detail for money , and do not comply

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I detail for money, but only for friends

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I detail only for fun

    Votes: 0 0.0%
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reparebrise

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Unfortunately our industry has a very negative image to overcome. Part of the problem is unlicensed and uninsured "pro" detailers. If you detail for money you must follow the laws, and carry insurance and be licensed, not to mention comply to the local environmental legislation.



SO are you part of the solution to the industries negative image by having the proper licenses and insurance, or do you reflect badly(not by you work, but by your professionalism) on the rest of us.
 
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I think this horse has been tenderized to the point of filet mignon at this point. Congrats on the self-promotion, though.
 
My client yesterday paid me in cash and said, "You aren't going to claim this are you." i took the cash and said, "Yes." He asked why and I basically recapped how I have a standard of ethics that keep me from doing it any other way. I explained that my neighbors all know what I do and so does my municipaity, my state, and my federal government.
 
I see this thread heading in the environ. comply direction. I missed the last one but, can't wait to see somebody get banned on this one!
 
This thread = Professionalism Fail.



Negative image according to who? If you're referring to government regulators, then who gives a flip. I don't think the industry has a negative image to those that use professional detailers to keep their cars looking top notch.



I think you spend too much time worrying about what government regulators think about you and your business, and the obvious conclusion is that you have something to gain by spending so much time on it. Most people just get professionally licensed as a requirement...you seem to do it so you can tell others how inferior they are.
 
15951 said:
This thread = Professionalism Fail.



Negative image according to who? If you're referring to government regulators, then who gives a flip. I don't think the industry has a negative image to those that use professional detailers to keep their cars looking top notch.



I think you spend too much time worrying about what government regulators think about you and your business, and the obvious conclusion is that you have something to gain by spending so much time on it. Most people just get professionally licensed as a requirement...you seem to do it so you can tell others how inferior they are.
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I think you just proved his point.



The reason laws and regulations are in place are to establish a uniform standard for an industry. In relation to "detailing" there are strict environmental regulations because it is unethical to harm the environment for the sake of saving a few bucks or it just being "easier" to not follow the rules. There are laws relating to registration and taxes that apply to ALL business and must be followed. Would you go to an unregistered dentist? Doubtful. The reason many detailers are reluctant to to adopt many of the practices the threadstarter addresses is one thing and one thing only - money.

Whether or not you like the delivery of the threadstarter's message, it doesn't make him wrong. In addition, detailers that do not run their business in a businesslike manner DO harm the image of the industry. 99% of this has to do with business skills and not detailing prowess or ability.
 
ShineShop said:
I think you just proved his point.



The reason laws and regulations are in place are to establish a uniform standard for an industry. In relation to "detailing" there are strict environmental regulations because it is unethical to harm the environment for the sake of saving a few bucks or it just being "easier" to not follow the rules. There are laws relating to registration and taxes that apply to ALL business and must be followed. Would you go to an unregistered dentist? Doubtful. The reason many detailers are reluctant to to adopt many of the practices the threadstarter addresses is one thing and one thing only - money.

Whether or not you like the delivery of the threadstarter's message, it doesn't make him wrong. In addition, detailers that do not run their business in a businesslike manner DO harm the image of the industry. 99% of this has to do with business skills and not detailing prowess or ability.
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Yes, I have been to a unregistered Dentist...When I was 8 My 12 year old Brother yanked a chicklet out of my grill.:D
 
Shouldn't there be a distinction in your poll? I believe it is wrong for people to carry out a "business", i.e. a full-time detailing business, without the proper business registration and insurance as applicable.



However, are you trying to say that the Autopians who detail on a part-time/weekend warrior/etc. basis should carry a business license and insurance as an absolute?



If I hire a landscaper to cut my lawn, who has a big truck with his name on the side, employees, etc., I expect him to be licensed, insured, pay the proper fees, taxes, etc. If I hire the neighbor's kid to cut my lawn, I don't have the same expectations.
 
The neighbor cutting my lawn risks cutting it too short, or cutting part or a flower bed, not a high risk. The detailer can inflict a lot of damage to a car, and thus be insured as a bare minimum.



My choice of the term professional may not be the best, as some detailers that are insured and licensed give results that are far from professional. So what term would be a better term to use to describe a business owner that abides by the laws and has enough respect for his customer to pay insurance?
 
ShineShop said:
I think you just proved his point.



The reason laws and regulations are in place are to establish a uniform standard for an industry. In relation to "detailing" there are strict environmental regulations because it is unethical to harm the environment for the sake of saving a few bucks or it just being "easier" to not follow the rules. There are laws relating to registration and taxes that apply to ALL business and must be followed. Would you go to an unregistered dentist? Doubtful. The reason many detailers are reluctant to to adopt many of the practices the threadstarter addresses is one thing and one thing only - money.

Whether or not you like the delivery of the threadstarter's message, it doesn't make him wrong. In addition, detailers that do not run their business in a businesslike manner DO harm the image of the industry. 99% of this has to do with business skills and not detailing prowess or ability.
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1. I don't own a detailing business, but I'm constantly seeing this same discussion repeated in 10 different ways around here.



2. Let's stop pretending the regulations in place for detailers/detailing are brain surgery. They're simple, and most people follow them.
 
What exactly is the point of this post?



Once you get the answers your looking for, what are you going to try to prove?
 
The thing I find funniest about all of these guys claiming to be environmentally friendly is that most, if not all of them, probably drive gasoline powered cars, probably have a television, probably use chemicals, probably smoke dope, etc:LOLOL
 
reparebrise said:
The neighbor cutting my lawn risks cutting it too short, or cutting part or a flower bed, not a high risk. The detailer can inflict a lot of damage to a car, and thus be insured as a bare minimum.
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Riiight, Or cutting his hand off using razor sharp blades while they spin at 2200 RPMS, Or running over your toddler while they play in the lawn.



reparebrise said:
So what term would be a better term to use to describe a business owner that abides by the laws and has enough respect for his customer to pay insurance?
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A: A business owner.



I think you lack even the basic understanding of business. Auto Cleaning is no different than every other business. This incessant drivel fails to address the fact that all business face the same challenges as Auto Cleaning. Wah.
 
You really have 2 different topics here. Professional business people that follow all the rules and regs. and then you have true highly skilled detailers that are professionals of their crafts. Sometimes they work in harmony other times they don't. I'll be perfectly honest. I have both a buisness lic. and Insurence. But any cash transactions go right in my pocket. I'll gladly pay taxes and such on all credit card transactions and checks that get deposited into my business account. But cash is cash and I don't have any interest in giving any of that to uncle sam.
 
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