Anyone having trouble layering Z2pro?

Craigster said:
Are you priming the pad? If so with what?



I never had luck using the PC, when I tried it I used 2-3x more than by hand.

If you are using ZFX, be sure to shake up well, then let sit for 15-20 minutes to react with the Z2.



I use foward and back overlapping motions. It goes on thin and at some spots looks like I missed, but as it hazes, what looked like was missed, actually had a very thin coat.



But I would call Sal...I agree all my Zaino flows around inside the bottle, Ive never had "glops". Maybe you do have a contaminated bottle...
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My technique is get the pad wet, wring it out, then spraying with some Z6. I put some ZFX+Z2pro on the pad then apply going in straight overlapping passes. I let the Z2 cure for about 30 minutes which is more than enough to get it dry in 90 degree temps. I buff it out then Z6 it to remove residuals. Using the same pad I repeat the process but the stuff just slides across the surface leaving nothing behind so the original load can do the car several times over, that would be efficent use if any stayed behind.



I've tried terry & mf pads, both failed miserably. I don't trust foam at all, even the softest foam seems too stiff.



Most of the bottle is gone so it may be difficult to call Sal about it. Come to think of it I probably chucked it, i'll have to double check.
 
Craigster said:
Are you priming the pad? If so with what?



I never had luck using the PC, when I tried it I used 2-3x more than by hand.

If you are using ZFX, be sure to shake up well, then let sit for 15-20 minutes to react with the Z2.



I use foward and back overlapping motions. It goes on thin and at some spots looks like I missed, but as it hazes, what looked like was missed, actually had a very thin coat.



But I would call Sal...I agree all my Zaino flows around inside the bottle, Ive never had "glops". Maybe you do have a contaminated bottle...
Click to expand...



My technique is get the pad wet, wring it out, then spraying with some Z6. I put some ZFX+Z2pro on the pad then apply going in straight overlapping passes. I let the Z2 cure for about 30 minutes which is more than enough to get it dry in 90 degree temps. I buff it out then Z6 it to remove residuals. Using the same pad I repeat the process but the stuff just slides across the surface leaving nothing behind so the original load can do the car several times over, that would be efficent use if any stayed behind.



I've tried terry & mf pads, both failed miserably. I don't trust foam at all, even the softest foam seems too stiff.



Most of the bottle is gone so it may be difficult to call Sal about it. Come to think of it I probably chucked it, i'll have to double check.
 
ericthebikeman,

Try applying without first pre-moistening the applicator with water. IMO this is not necessary and dilutes the product being applied and possibly effecting the resultant appearance. I just moisten with a little Z6 or Z8 and apply. I re-priming applicator only when necessary to allow even thin hand applications.



Z2-PRO is a "heavier" product that "does" require a little more effort to apply than the older Z2 or even Z5. Small price to pay for the rich appearance of this LSP with durability.



Hope this helps. :wavey
 
ericthebikeman,

Try applying without first pre-moistening the applicator with water. IMO this is not necessary and dilutes the product being applied and possibly effecting the resultant appearance. I just moisten with a little Z6 or Z8 and apply. I re-priming applicator only when necessary to allow even thin hand applications.



Z2-PRO is a "heavier" product that "does" require a little more effort to apply than the older Z2 or even Z5. Small price to pay for the rich appearance of this LSP with durability.



Hope this helps. :wavey
 
I also apply only by hand. I prefer to use the small oval Cello sponges made by 3M. They stay moist ( after opening I put the rest in a zip lock bag ) and I agree I wouldn't dampen your applicator.

I never liked the cloth or MF applicators , I feel with the small sponge I can control the product better. The Z2 pro is a little thicker and I also agree it's well worth the extra effort. I also find with the Z2 pro I only need 2 coats , but after working with it for a while I think one would be sufficent especially with Z8. I used to apply it every week and now only when I am totally bored. Now I just wash with Z7 then wipe down with Z8 and its perfection.
 
I also apply only by hand. I prefer to use the small oval Cello sponges made by 3M. They stay moist ( after opening I put the rest in a zip lock bag ) and I agree I wouldn't dampen your applicator.

I never liked the cloth or MF applicators , I feel with the small sponge I can control the product better. The Z2 pro is a little thicker and I also agree it's well worth the extra effort. I also find with the Z2 pro I only need 2 coats , but after working with it for a while I think one would be sufficent especially with Z8. I used to apply it every week and now only when I am totally bored. Now I just wash with Z7 then wipe down with Z8 and its perfection.
 
what kind of weather are you applying it in?...i know when its cloudy/dry it seems to be a lot easier to apply than the heat/sun...if youre doing it in the sun, try to put it off until later in the evening to try to notice a difference :xyxthumbs
 
what kind of weather are you applying it in?...i know when its cloudy/dry it seems to be a lot easier to apply than the heat/sun...if youre doing it in the sun, try to put it off until later in the evening to try to notice a difference :xyxthumbs
 
I tried it with a finishing pad sprayed with Z7, the final result had a very good shine but it was extremely difficult to see if the PC was putting any product down. The first few attempts wasted a good amount of Z2 before it was saturated. Getting the pad damp, spraying with Z7 then applying would probably waste less product.



BTW - My new bottle is just as thick as the other bottle. The old bottle wasted at least one once of product since it clings to the bottle tenaciously.
 
I tried it with a finishing pad sprayed with Z7, the final result had a very good shine but it was extremely difficult to see if the PC was putting any product down. The first few attempts wasted a good amount of Z2 before it was saturated. Getting the pad damp, spraying with Z7 then applying would probably waste less product.



BTW - My new bottle is just as thick as the other bottle. The old bottle wasted at least one once of product since it clings to the bottle tenaciously.
 
I used to apply it every week and now only when I am totally bored. Now I just wash with Z7 then wipe down with Z8 and its perfection.
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:LOLOL



Yup, my Zaino is very boring.



I want to go play with my truck, but then i look at it after i wash and dry it, shake my head and go back inside :drool:
 
I used to apply it every week and now only when I am totally bored. Now I just wash with Z7 then wipe down with Z8 and its perfection.
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:LOLOL



Yup, my Zaino is very boring.



I want to go play with my truck, but then i look at it after i wash and dry it, shake my head and go back inside :drool:
 
I do experience the same thing. It seems the second coat kind of drags across the surface leaving Z2 streaks and missed spots. I find that i have to put my head at different angles to see what I'm missing and go over spots again and again. I find that I have been appying the Z2Pro thicker than the old version. I think for me usind the PC helps spread the product more evenly with less missed spots and also quickens the process. :D
 
I do experience the same thing. It seems the second coat kind of drags across the surface leaving Z2 streaks and missed spots. I find that i have to put my head at different angles to see what I'm missing and go over spots again and again. I find that I have been appying the Z2Pro thicker than the old version. I think for me usind the PC helps spread the product more evenly with less missed spots and also quickens the process. :D
 
Four layers on my Montego, without a problem, two with a PC, and two by hand. No problems layer. I don't know if you answered the question before, but are you using ZFX?
 
Four layers on my Montego, without a problem, two with a PC, and two by hand. No problems layer. I don't know if you answered the question before, but are you using ZFX?
 
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