Any Preference On Clay?

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jeepngli

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Need to order some clay bar. I've used Detailed Image's clay bar(not sure who makes it). Do you guys find any difference in brands? This would be for my garaged mustang. Its clean, the clay would only be to remove any previous wax.

I also don't use the Pre-wax cleaners. Is that worth a try or just an extra unneeded step?

Thanks in advance,
JeepnGLI
 
Ron, I figured you would say that from your other thread.

The site I was buying from doesn't have Poorboy's otherwise I would try it.

I saw good things about Sonus and Griots. I also saw that Pinnacle's is supposed to be ultra-fine.

Since the paint is in really good condition, all I want to remove is the left over wax so I need an ultra-fine, correct? I'm thinking Pinnacle
 
When I used Claybars a few years ago, I liked the Blackfire PolyClay sold here along with their Claybar cleaner spray..
Much nicer to spray and rub the bad stuff off the claybar then kneading it a zillion times, in my experience..

This particular bar is very easy to use and does a great job of cleaning off the paintwork leaving a nice, smooth, finish that looks better because it is cleaner..

Since you are using it to clean off old wax, unless you are doing this like every few weeks and the car is totally not outside much, there will be some junk in the paint along with the LSP that may or may not still be there..
Dan F
 
I'm not sure that clay will do a complete job.

For that you may want something like
PBl paint cleanser
Poorboys world pro polish
DP coating prep polish
 
Interesting. I'm not sure why the clay wouldn't do what I need or is it that the clay is an overkill for what I need?

I've never used those Pre-wax cleaners. Maybe I should?
 
jeepngli said:
Interesting. I'm not sure why the clay wouldn't do what I need or is it that the clay is an overkill for what I need?

I've never used those Pre-wax cleaners. Maybe I should?
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It used to be said it would. But then some said it wouldn't.....

Me, I'd be over cautious and do it anyway, AND polish to make sure it's a perfect (or perfect as can be) surface.

I mean, it is YOUR car......
 
Gotcha. I still didn't see that Poorboy's Clay on autopia's site. I must be missing something

Maybe this is a silly question, but can the polishing be done by hand at all? Not going to do much without a buffer right? I need to get one and practice on the DD/wife's car first
 
jeepngli said:
Gotcha. I still didn't see that Poorboy's Clay on autopia's site. I must be missing something

Maybe this is a silly question, but can the polishing be done by hand at all? Not going to do much without a buffer right? I need to get one and practice on the DD/wife's car first
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Call Ray about the clay.

If you're going to do it all by hand, maybe try
Blackfire Total polish and seal, then follow up with a couple of coats of Crystal seal, then maybe a coat of wax or not as you wish
 
Does Blacklight count as a Polish since it has mild abrasives? I think most people consider it a hybrid glaze/sealant though I don't see how it's a sealant since it doesn't have durability
 
I was re reading this thread this morning and wanted clarification.

All the brands carry some sort of pre-wax cleaner type. The review were really good on Pinnacle's, Dodo, Backfire, etc. Is that better fo my paint and better for removing wax than the clay barring? Dodo's website says to clay then use the pre wax cleaner.
 
jeepngli said:
I was re reading this thread this morning and wanted clarification.

All the brands carry some sort of pre-wax cleaner type. The review were really good on Pinnacle's, Dodo, Backfire, etc. Is that better fo my paint and better for removing wax than the clay barring? Dodo's website says to clay then use the pre wax cleaner.
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So, I'm not an expert or a pro and was/am curious myself as to what the difference/s between clay is/are.

However, what I have interpreted is that LSP removal with a clay bar is more of a by-product than an intended purpose. In other words, when you clay to [i[decontaminate[/i] you paint, some LSP will be removed. I've also seen debate whether or not it really removes anything. Pre-wax cleaners are specifically formulated to remove LSPs.

My take is this:

Decontaminate with a clay bar and you will remove, at minimum, some of the LSP. You're pulling particles out of you paint, how wouldn't you remove some LSP too (even if it's just whatever is on said particles)? So, I would ensure that all of the LSP is removed with a pre-wax cleaner.

I still don't know what's the difference between the clays and currently am using Mothers due to price and being a hobbyist right now.
 
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