Another viewpoint on wax

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Hey Bill and welcome Jared,

I ain't got nothing in this debate, just to add that I'm open to try new LSP's if they sound promising. I think we - most TID guys/gals have pretty much agreed that Menzerna and Megs make the top polishes, and BF is one of the best sealants out there, but - I think we're all willing to give something else a try just for the hell of it. So Bill, want to share what you like to use and I might give it a shot if I haven't ever tried it.
 
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Puckman said:
Don't get us wrong. Many of us come from a history of many previous online forums and over the years we've been peppered with the newest, outstanding product that someone is pushing. Because of that we take somewhat of a jaundiced view of someone who is touting the methods of what we consider non conventional. I'm here at TID because we're not very dismissive of such claims but seasoned enough to want more specific info regarding non standard approaches. Basically no one can fool the members of TID with ridiculous claims because we've time tested probably everything and we understand how just about everything works in this business! We are just a little more critical of things but that's not necessarily a bad thing for the membership.

Having said that I think we're looking for a little more evidence or information that supports what you're saying. I think you'll find we are very open to anything someone finds successful. Just bear in mind that many of us may not agree and that's ok. We all realize that each of us finds something that works and I for one appreciate that individual sharing it here. Many of us maintain an open mind whether it's from experience or inexperience. Again, with that said I'm interested in hearing more of your experience.
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[Clearcoat is just clear paint, and over time things are going to break it
down.I may be nuts, but why waste your time and money to put something
on your second most expensive asset you own that speeds up the process?]

If I understand the above you are saying that a wax and/or sealent speeds up oxidation and will cause damage to a clear coat?

Environmental Contaminants

Environmental damage to paint comes in a varied range of threats; acid rain, road salt, tree sap and airborne contaminants are very detrimental to a vehicles paint film surface. They are all forms of environmental contamination and given the right catalyst; reactivity (heat) plus moisture, they will become acidic.

Clear coat paint (polyurethane) provides the colour and base coats with protection, and usually has UVR protection added in the final coating; this tends to migrate towards the upper level of the clear coat (this is why it?s important to check how much of the paint surface you are removing with an abrasive polish)

Sacrificial Barrier

The purpose of applying a renewable protective coating to automotive paint is to act as a sacrificial barrier against air borne contaminants; this renewable barrier is less than 0.000001" thick, and can be reapplied when it has eroded. This is all that stands between your paint surface clear coat and air borne contaminants
 
Yes

If I apply wax to a clearcoat that is Florida on a summer day. It will melt
much like a candle and remain sticky, and much like a flystrip dirt, bugs ,
pollen, etc,will embed into the wax. Over a period of time it will harden
and will cause the clarity of the shine to be affected. What is the next step.,
correction, using a polish or compound to remove it. This will wear the clear
coat. If AT-5 would have been applied this would not happen.
 
billd55 said:
Yes

If I apply wax to a clearcoat that is Florida on a summer day. It will melt
much like a candle and remain sticky, and much like a flystrip dirt, bugs ,
pollen, etc,will embed into the wax. Over a period of time it will harden
and will cause the clarity of the shine to be affected. What is the next step.,
correction, using a polish or compound to remove it. This will wear the clear
coat. If AT-5 would have been applied this would not happen.
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Well, if you want to compare apples to apples, your AT-5 site you provided states that AT-5 can't be applied to warm surfaces either. States so right there on the FAQ, I believe it was. Instructions were to cool down the surface with water before application.
 
Well I'm been busying and when I saw AT-5 I starting thinking it was a old Soviet antitank guided missile that I saw in the late 70's and in the early 80's. It's was equivalent to the American TOW missile use by US Military. But now reading more I see where this is going. All I have to say is there is very thin water running around here. So let's all take a break...........:wizard:
 
billd55 said:
No one here is being forced to read my posts, so if you do not agree with
me or your head hurts. Then do'nt. But what do these remarks mean.
What does soviet anti tank missles have to do with anything. Please, start your own posts, but other people may have an interest.
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Perhaps you should try telling that to somebody who doesn't have an interest in the ownership of this forum?

Bye-bye..
 
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