AG now has Menzerna polishes

SpoiledMan said:
Porta, what is PO87MC??



I thought PO87MC was FPII....menzerna gets confusing with product numbers and nick names...lol....



Micro Polish uses the highest quality finely milled powder to eliminate all haze, swirls, and holograms on all paint

systems. Contains no fillers or glazing material to achieve a permanent ultra high gloss surface quality.

Ref. PO87MC (AKA FPII)





this is the info I got awhile back....



Al
 
Only if you're like some of us obsessed guys and make it that way. If you pick up PG, IP and FPII you're in business.;)
 
kleraudio said:
is Super IP part number PO85RD3.01. That is what it says on AG.net, but then the chart in the description says it will remove 3000 grit scratches. SIP should be removing 2000 grit according to menzernas charts?





Jim



anyone?



Jim
 
If I had IP and a wool pad and some 106 and a white or green pad I could probably correct most any car on the planet.:)
 
For those who have used it, how agressive is 106FF on non-ceramic clear? Can I romove swirls with it? Can it be used with a light cutting pad or only a polishing pad?
 
Is menzerna good with the PC? Would you suggest it for a newbie? I got the SSR 1 and 2.5 and XMT 360 so far...



Guys don't forget the 15% (MEMORIAL07) off with AG for the memorial day weekend. I was getting a backing plate and some pads. Want to get some menzerna now too.
 
2KLS1 said:
For those who have used it, how agressive is 106FF on non-ceramic clear? Can I romove swirls with it? Can it be used with a light cutting pad or only a polishing pad?

On some regular clears, it can remove a lot of clear very quick if you use too much pressure and or make too many passes. But it really cuts my work time down alot and finishes exceptionally nice.



I was recently demonsrating the cut of 106ff on the hood of someone's Ford Excursion that had been rolled, so they didn't mind any potential damage from my demo. The hood had a surface coating of 4.6 mills in the 2 X 2 area I was polishing. I polished this area with po106ff via Cyclo and Edge 2000 yellow pads. After working this 2 X 2 area for a short while with some pressure, the thickness measurement had already dropped to 4 mills and below; a whopping difference of 0.6 mills or about ~15 microns.



It's been said that much of the UV protection for the clear coat lies at the outer edge (~1/3 mill or ~8.5 microns). With this in mind, the 15 microns I quickly removed with 106ff would surely have a negative long term impact on the UV protection in this area, especially if it was left to the elements without any other protection. The surface looked immaculate after I was done, but this does raise a valid concern in my mind about the long term impact of the clear coat's UV protection when too much clear is removed.



I really like 106ff, but I always measure my surface coatings and error on the side of caution when in doubt. Not all clears will cut this fast, but it's nice to have a tool that helps me make more informed decisions towards the best interest of my customers.
 
qadsan said:
On some regular clears, it can remove a lot of clear very quick if you use too much pressure and or make too many passes. But it really cuts my work time down alot and finishes exceptionally nice.



I was recently demonsrating the cut of 106ff on the hood of someone's Ford Excursion that had been rolled, so they didn't mind any potential damage from my demo. The hood had a surface coating of 4.6 mills in the 2 X 2 area I was polishing. I polished this area with po106ff via Cyclo and Edge 2000 yellow pads. After working this 2 X 2 area for a short while with some pressure, the thickness measurement had already dropped to 4 mills and below; a whopping difference of 0.6 mills or about ~15 microns.



It's been said that much of the UV protection for the clear coat lies at the outer edge (~1/3 mill or ~8.5 microns). With this in mind, the 15 microns I quickly removed with 106ff would surely have a negative long term impact on the UV protection in this area, especially if it was left to the elements without any other protection. The surface looked immaculate after I was done, but this does raise a valid concern in my mind about the long term impact of the clear coat's UV protection when too much clear is removed.



I really like 106ff, but I always measure my surface coatings and error on the side of caution when in doubt. Not all clears will cut this fast, but it's nice to have a tool that helps me make more informed decisions towards the best interest of my customers.

That's pretty aggresive. What if I use an LC green or even a white pad, will that do any correction? I've done a decent job of keeping my car free of major swirls since I last polished it (with IP and FPII but not from the pro-line) and I'm not looking to go too aggresive. What about micro polish PO87, how aggresive is this?
 
I am shocked they are selling these now. The po83 is a very good deal for that price.



It was a matter of time they would read all of our needs and wants.
 
2KLS1 said:
That's pretty aggresive. What if I use an LC green or even a white pad, will that do any correction? I've done a decent job of keeping my car free of major swirls since I last polished it (with IP and FPII but not from the pro-line) and I'm not looking to go too aggresive. What about micro polish PO87, how aggresive is this?

I'm sure the LC green and white pads will do correction with 106ff, but how much clear it removes can only be known through measurements. *IF* PO87 is FPII, then its definitely significantly less agressive than 106ff on regular clears from my experiences.
 
slobu said:
p085u had cut 3/5 gloss 4/5



I though Final Polish was cut 1.5/5 and gloss 4/5, Final Polish II cut 2/5 and gloss 4/5.



Also whats the difference between Final Polish and Micro Polish? According to AG FP cuts faster, but I'm sure theres more to it.
 
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