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5 Coating Adhesion Test to CarPro Essence Review!
- Thread starter Jesse@Autopia
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Marc08EX
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2nd post.
GearHead_1
Long Time Member
Very cool Jesse. I'd agree with your observation of the BlackFire having the tightest beading at this point.
Got it, thanks.
Jsmooth
OCDetailing
Just throwing it out there from my testing. Essence by its self does not have very high water contact angle, I also saw the same kinda weak beading from it. But it stayed that way and didn't diminish over the coarse of 5 months I was testing it.
sealthedeal
New member
Blackfires beading appeared tighter to me too. Here is how BL beading is on its own post first wash (just for reference):
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Detail Impressions
Detail Impressions
Jesse,
Thank you for the update! Great work.
I differ from most as I have seen water spots on most coatings as a major problem so the breading does not impress me.
Please pour the water an lets check the sheeting of each coating....
I know this is outside the box thinking.
Respectfully, Thank you, Sir
Thank you for the update! Great work.
I differ from most as I have seen water spots on most coatings as a major problem so the breading does not impress me.
Please pour the water an lets check the sheeting of each coating....
I know this is outside the box thinking.
Respectfully, Thank you, Sir
Jesse@Autopia
New member
Yes, I will also check the sheeting once I wash the car. Updates should be coming within a couple weeks. :bigups
Merlin
A Miracle Detailing
I believe Carpro reset would be a good wash shampoo choice.
It is mild, made for coatings and yet works really well in a foam cannon.
Angus
AspiringProductSpecialist
Thanks for the close-ups Jesse! BF looks the best to me as well.
From a distance it's hard to tell a difference in beading between the test areas:
(before and after photos overlaid for coating context)
From a distance it's hard to tell a difference in beading between the test areas:
(before and after photos overlaid for coating context)
haris300
New member
Very cool little test. Thanks for taking the time to share with us. I'm sure a lot of us are curious how Essence will hold out on its own as time passes.
Vegas1
Member
Great test. Thanks for all the hard work and updates.
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DaveT435
Member
I didn't read all the posts on here. I've used Blackfire a couple times, found it a very easy coating to use. I opened a fresh bottle to try on top of Essence. I found the two didn't play well together at all. My next step was to adjust the amount of time between Essence and Blackfire. I'm curious how long did you wait between Essence and the coatings?
Merlin
A Miracle Detailing
Yes, I'm looking forward to the results!
You might try wiping the paint with Eraser (in many cases I do it twice) before applying Blackfire coating.
RaysWay
Autopia Specialist
Just curious but what did you observe exactly that let you know those two products did not work well together? The more details the better please (application process, weather, etc)
I know everyone else on here would soak up your data too.Justins00ss
Active member
Just curious but what did you observe exactly that let you know those two products did not work well together? The more details the better please (application process, weather, etc)
I just used this exact same process on the deck lid of my GTO. I polished with Boss correcting cream, followed by Essence. After wipe off I applied BF Crystal Coat. It was definitely grabby upon removal and required me to shrink my working area and wipe off immediately after application. It took a little bit but I was successful. I did this outside around 5pm. Temp was around 70ish and the paint had been out of direct sunlight for a while prior. Only other thing I can think of is that the bottle has been open for a few months now.
RaysWay
Autopia Specialist
Interesting... Thanks for the feedback!
sealthedeal
New member
I have used the Blackfire coating thrice, first time being 4.5 months ago (that I picked just after its launch) and then 2nd/3rd time past two weekends. First time it was a breeze to use and had a long working time allowing to go back n forth easily. Exactly like how the video of Mike(smack) showed it. Loved the outcomes.
Four months kept at room temp and sealed bottle.
The last two recent uses and it was very difficult to work with. Hardly any working time to the extent you find it dry during the overlap pass of criss cross. Similarly very grabby to remove.
I saw several other people complain recently on a dedicated thread as well even though they opened the bottle for first time picking from the recent BF site sale .
My personal hypothesis (and it's just my mileage ) is that the shelf life of product isn't great and product in closed bottles has aged similarly as the open bottles.
I am now very worried of the two 8oz bottles I picked at the BF site sale.
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512detail
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I'm waiting more longevity results before pulling the trigger on essence.
I don't polish/coat enough to justify it at this time but I would like to see how the bf ends up playing as I have it and pbl.
This thread has epic potential.
I don't polish/coat enough to justify it at this time but I would like to see how the bf ends up playing as I have it and pbl.
This thread has epic potential.
