3M products
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maesal
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porta said:Mario, don´t let us hanging and post some pictures
Hehe, I'll upload some pics about the detail I did today.
I used both, 50077 and 50383. 50077 has similar cut than 09374 Fast Cut, but with more working time. What it removed, after 1 pass of IPA, didn't return after a IPA wipedown, so is a nice rubbing compound.
The 50383 is nice also, but the paint was in really bad condition, I don't know how many resprays it has, but I read about 1 mm of paint !! and there was lots of orange peel, so the finish can't be perfect.
I'll upload some pics tomorrow.
Regards.
maesal
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porta said:
You could wait for my comments about Presta Ultra Cutting Crème, Ultra Cutting Crème Light and Chroma 1500... The second it an incredible polish as I read, I think it will be like a RD3.01 with the same level of gloss but with more cut. And the Chroma 1500 is like a 106FF, with and incredible gloss.
I hope to receive Presta this week. I'll tell you something.
Regards. :bigups
TrueDetailer
All About The Bling Bling
The name 3M should say it all. I've used some of the marine stuff, a few bodyshop safe compounds/polishes, its all good stuff. Everything else that i've used outside of detailing has also been well worth the money.
Woob
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maesal said:
Do let us know how it goes! I've found 106FF really is versatile (the Blackfire Version), it can cut similar to IP depending the pad and speed you use it.
maesal
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porta said:
I hope I'll receive tomorrow the quote from Portugal, then I suppose I'll receive them on friday :rockon
PO106FF is amazing !!
Bence
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Mario, what speed range were you using for the 50077? And yes, those little bottles are perfect.
Porta, do you have experience with the 106FA? I'll receive a bottle soon and I'm really curious. My experience with my 85RE5 is a somewhat limited but it was a bit unfriendly, tacky. Of course it could be the temperatures, but it wasn't the super nicely lubricated thingy.
Porta, do you have experience with the 106FA? I'll receive a bottle soon and I'm really curious. My experience with my 85RE5 is a somewhat limited but it was a bit unfriendly, tacky. Of course it could be the temperatures, but it wasn't the super nicely lubricated thingy.
maesal
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Bence said:
I'm using the 50077 at 1200-1300 rpm and the results are very good. The finish is better than using 09374, but it doen't matter, it's necessary using a finishing stage.
Regards Bence !!
maesal
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porta said:Bence: I haven´t used the 106FA yet, will try it tomorrow on a black BMW X3.
I love the RE5, but it´s very kranky if the temperature is low. The lubrication will be very bad and the pad will skip and jump on the paint beacuse of the friction. PO85RD3.02 have the same problem.
How cold was it when you polished? I never polish under 15celcius(IE always inside, even during the summer)If it´s warm, no problemo.
If it´s cold, store the bottles on the below a radiator or etc.
And something off topic: I was talking to a rep from Mirka today and he´s going to send me some samples of their new polish line. Will get them next week.
Polishing Compounds for ART - Mirka
My god Marcus, more things to try !! :rockon :wall
Bence: I will use the PO106FA for the first time tomorrow on a black BMW X3, can come back after that. Will compare it to 106FF and 3M 80349.
I think it´s the temperature that makes it cranky and tacky. The lubrication doesn´t like temperatures under 15 celcius. I always polishes inside even during the summer and never had any problems. But a friend was polishing inside a garage and it was like 10celcius and both RD3.02 and RE5 was a pain, started to skip on the paint and the friction was VERY high, PITA to remove and etc.
But when the heat rise during the day, they didn´t have any problem. I keep the bottles over the radiator before I polish so they are not to cold.
and now a little off topic: Was talking to a rep from Mirka, and he is going to send me some samples of their new polishing line, will get them next week
Polishing Compounds for ART - Mirka
I think it´s the temperature that makes it cranky and tacky. The lubrication doesn´t like temperatures under 15 celcius. I always polishes inside even during the summer and never had any problems. But a friend was polishing inside a garage and it was like 10celcius and both RD3.02 and RE5 was a pain, started to skip on the paint and the friction was VERY high, PITA to remove and etc.
But when the heat rise during the day, they didn´t have any problem. I keep the bottles over the radiator before I polish so they are not to cold.
and now a little off topic: Was talking to a rep from Mirka, and he is going to send me some samples of their new polishing line, will get them next week
Polishing Compounds for ART - Mirka
Bence
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Exactly the characteristics you described. Then it must have been the temps. It was 10-12 °C.
The Mirka line is promising indeed.
The Mirka line is promising indeed.
Deanski
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From some of the other shops that use 3M, they seem to really like the new "Ultrafina" polish and pads (matching) that removes, not fills swirls after using 3M SMR type product, this new UltraFina does a much better job.
I'll be seeing it in action soon as one of the 3M reps will be at one of the shops I deal with.
BTW, there is also video on this newer polish on 3M's website. Here you go:
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Deanski
I'll be seeing it in action soon as one of the 3M reps will be at one of the shops I deal with.
BTW, there is also video on this newer polish on 3M's website. Here you go:
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Deanski
maesal
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I can't wait for your comparison about finishing polishes !!
Good luck Marcus.
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Good luck Marcus.
Check your PM
Deanski
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maesal said:
Looks like it too.
The only thing with this new polish, you do not polish until dry. It has to leave a thin oil film which you can wash off. It's body-shop safe as well.
Deanski
maesal
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Deanski said:
If I understood you well, I have to work the polish until it goes clear. Then, remove the oils. I used it and when the abrassives break down, the polish is still wet.
Thanks Deanski !!
Edit: As I see in the video, the polish must be worked at 1800 rpm?
Bence
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Well, after watching the vid, I am definitely DON'T want to try this system. It is at least one generation behind. The whole language tells me 3M's approach and they use the words "swirls", "glaze" suspiciously often. The interviewed people basically tell the whole story: until now, it was not satisfactory, but with this extra step it is heaven. Oh, well...
Of course, the Ultrafina will remove, eliminate, the swirls but when you don't work it in well, it will fill them. Huh???
They trying to sell a product which throws oily splatter (telling me that I'm using the correct amount)? Come on! And I thought I could do a car in a tuxedo...
The surface on the video is excellent, but the thing is a bit fishy to me.
What would he say if he'd try the 106FF which has surprising cut, yet still produces a world-class finish - doing this with not just a velvety, but a stiffer pad as well? Or a basically traceless, residueless OPS?? Or an LSP-ready heavy compound???
Of course, the Ultrafina will remove, eliminate, the swirls but when you don't work it in well, it will fill them. Huh???
They trying to sell a product which throws oily splatter (telling me that I'm using the correct amount)? Come on! And I thought I could do a car in a tuxedo...
The surface on the video is excellent, but the thing is a bit fishy to me.
What would he say if he'd try the 106FF which has surprising cut, yet still produces a world-class finish - doing this with not just a velvety, but a stiffer pad as well? Or a basically traceless, residueless OPS?? Or an LSP-ready heavy compound???