BlackFire Wet Diamond Waterless Wash

[BobbyG]

Today was a decent day to perform some product trials and I thought this would be a perfect opportunity to take BlackFire Wet Diamond Waterless Wash for a test drive.

Subject: 1999 Dodge Dakota SLT

The temp here is 44F and a mixture of sun and clouds. Considering it's 28-Jan-2012 in New England it's not too hard to take.

BlackFire Wet Diamond Waterless Wash comes in your standard 20oz spray bottle and is not unlike many currently in your detailing arsenal. It's scent is that of a standard cleaning product and not overwhelming or pungent.

BlackFire Wet Diamond Waterless Wash is a product that can be used on just about any surface; paint, glass, chrome, fiberglass and plastic.

This sprayer has two spray pattern options; concentrated stream and a fanned shape.

Concentrated Stream

Fanned Shape

An important note before I go further is how dirty is too dirty. Mike Phillips did a great article and I've provided the link for your convenience. How dirty is too dirty to safely use a rinseless wash?

Photos 1, 2, and 3 show the amount of dirt, salt, and debris accumulated from a storm we had a week ago. This is about as dirty as I like to allow when using a waterless wash.

Even though the clear coat has a slight tint to it, silver is a difficult color to photograph properly in order to convey the level of contaminates.

Following the directions, I liberally sprayed the panel covering it then waited a few minutes for it to attack the grime allowing it to be easily and safely wiped away.

Photos 4, 5, 6, and 7

If you look closely you'll notice that the product is not strong enough to dissolve the contamination causing debris to flow toward the ground. In my mind, this somewhat important because if it were too strong it could attack and dissolve the sealant or wax protection.

Photos 8 & 9 clearly show the product working

Wiping

Use several clean Microfiber Towels and do not apply too much pressure as accumulated particles could impart minor surface defects.

When wiping, the towel easily glided across the finish removing the grime and contaminates. I wiped in one direction then flipping the cloth frequently exposing a fresh area.

This business side of a clean Microfiber Towel illustrating the cleaning effectiveness of BlackFire Wet Diamond Waterless Wash

To further test the effectiveness of BlackFire Wet Diamond Waterless Wash, I resprayed the entire panel then wiped it with a clean white Microfiber Towel.......The photo below is worth a thousand words...

Final Results

BlackFire Wet Diamond Waterless Wash is a quality product that's reasonably priced. It works very well and is effective in a wide variety of cleaning rolls. I like the slickness and streak free shine once the final wipe is complete. :bigups

BlackFire Wet Diamond Waterless Wash has now earned a place in my detailing arsenal......:bigups

 

[TroyScherer]

Thanks for the review Bobby.

 

[CT3]

Thanks for the review and for the link as well.

 

[mjlinane]

Great review. :bigups

 

[Dr Oldz]

Great minds indeed Bobby!! Looks like we share the same brain occasionally. Always impressed how great your Dakota looks and looks like this WW can help maintain that amazing look.

 

[LegacyGT]

Great review Bobby! I thought the new BF Waterless Wash left behind some good gloss, did you experience the same thing?

 

[Timbrr]

Great information Bobby; I have WW as part of my order of the new BF products. Thanks for taking the time and effort to keep us informed.

 

[BobbyG]

Great review Bobby! I thought the new BF Waterless Wash left behind some good gloss, did you experience the same thing?

Yes Bill, it did. :bigups

Even though it was a gorgeous day for January, the coolness and damp air kept the product from drying quickly as it would if it were let's say 65 or 70 degrees. Once completely dry I did notice a much nicer slickness and shine produced during the final buffing...

By the way, some of the photos in the post exhibit a couple of dark spots....those from somewhere in the camera which I will find....

 

[Jaddie]

Dear Bobby & Friends

Thanks a bunch for sharing your impressions and pictures.

I'm going to try this as soon as I use my current supply of waterless washes.

 

[Todd@RUPES]

Thank you Bobby for sharing!

 

[Bunky]

Thanks for the review Bobby.

 

[LegacyGT]

Yes Bill, it did. :bigups

Even though it was a gorgeous day for January, the coolness and damp air kept the product from drying quickly as it would if it were let's say 65 or 70 degrees. Once completely dry I did notice a much nicer slickness and shine produced during the final buffing...

By the way, some of the photos in the post exhibit a couple of dark spots....those from somewhere in the camera which I will find....

Awesome!!

The dark spots in the pictures is dust on the sensor. It it kinda a sensitive thing to resolve. Hit me up on PM if you need some input.

 

[glfahlc]

thanks for the review bob, got some ww on the way. kinda hard to tell but your truck doesn't look very dirty. for instance, would one's car be too dirty too use this medium after driving in a rainstorm.

 

[rzatch]

Great review Bobby.

 

[jtford95]

Thanks Bob. Doesn't look like it was streaky either. I'll have to get some.

 

[BobbyG]

thanks for the review bob, got some ww on the way. kinda hard to tell but your truck doesn't look very dirty. for instance, would one's car be too dirty too use this medium after driving in a rainstorm.

You're welcome!

This is one of the selling points of the color silver. Many salesman will tell you that silver doesn't get as dirty as many other colors and I just shake my head when I hear this.

It was pretty dirty and to your point yes, spraying down and washing each panel before the dirt and debris dry is a great idea if you have the time and opportunity.

 

[addysdaddy]

I'm so confused. I've been a fanboy of ONR for a long time but had a sample of the BF Rinseless Wash in the cabinet so I decided to do a little head to head testing. Well, to my surprise I actually like the BF a little more then my old reliable ONR. Decided on 1 oz to a gallon diluation though the instructions recommends only using 1/2 oz. Frankly it seemed to clean a little better with less pressure on the MF and didn't streak at all. When using my guzzler waffle towel, I try and not use any pressure whatsoever and allow the towel & product to do the heavy lifting. In the end the paint just seems a little cleaner and slicker from the BF then ONR.

So here's the confusing part, I run back to my computer to compare prices with ONR and I notice BF has two products. A Rinseless Wash AND a Waterless Wash - so guys, I have no clue. My sample was the Rinseless Wash. Can anyone clarify because it seems like a rose by any other name to me - except I did notice the WW was not as concentrated as the RW.

 

[AutopiaTech]

So here's the confusing part, I run back to my computer to compare prices with ONR and I notice BF has two products. A Rinseless Wash AND a Waterless Wash - so guys, I have no clue. My sample was the Rinseless Wash. Can anyone clarify because it seems like a rose by any other name to me - except I did notice the WW was not as concentrated as the RW.

I'll clear up some of the confusion. :bigups

Blackfire Wet Diamond Rinseless Wash: This product is a rinseless car wash. A bucket and water is required with this product. You dilute 1 oz. rinseless wash per 2 gallons of water. Soak your wash media of choice and wash one panel at a time. It is ideal to have a second bucket with clean water and a Grit Guard Insert for rinsing your wash media so you don't contaminate your bucket filled with wash solution. After you wash a panel, you dry it.

Blackfire Wet Diamond Waterless Wash (also available in a concentrate): This product is a waterless car wash. A bucket and water is NOT required with this product. Working one panel at a time, you spray a liberal amount of product and wipe the dirt away with a plush microfiber towel. The high lubricity formula prevents scratches and swirls from occurring. The concentrate is more cost effective if you use the product frequently.

For heavily soiled vehicles, nothing replaces a traditional car wash. For moderately soiled vehicles, a rinseless car wash is a huge time saver in addition to being more environmentally friendly. For lightly soiled vehicles, nothing is more convenient than a waterless car wash.

Two great products, both with their own intended use. :rockon

 

[dd1101]

Stig said it the best.

Stuart buy both!!! you wont regret it. I use the BF Waterless wash weekly. Its great to get the car clean on the go. But I have also pushed the waterless to its limits and it worked great. For waterless you do not need a bucket, just spray and wipe. If the car is really dirty then I bring out the Rinseless wash with the bucket, and you are correct it does take less effort than ONR, and leaves a great shine.

This is where I pushed the waterless wash to its limit. http://www.autopiaforums.com/forums/blackfire-product-discussion/39926-bfww-bfpss-mini-review.html

 

[addysdaddy]

Thanks guys, appreciate the explanation. To my way of thinking, it seems that the Rinseless Wash product might have more utility for me since I already have 3/4 of a gallon of ONR still in the cabinet. I also can more easily overlook light soiled spots but when I notice "heavy" dirt, I'm "compelled" to remove that which is more of the job of the RW then WW, if I'm understanding you both correctly. But that aside, still not sure that changing the dilution concentration won't accomplish the same end goal and allow the rinseless wash to serve a dual purpose. Again I see the distinction your making but to me there's an awful lot of product overlap going on here.