BFMS NOW $80.00?? Booooooooo

Kind of a neat case though. Think about it- once you finish the wax you can pack cloths in it for your next trip
 
I wonder what's behind the BIG increase here? I bought my BlackFire Midnight Sun last year on sale for $49.00 but the regular price was only $59.00.

I'm interested to see what everyone else makes of this..
 
BobbyG said:
I wonder what's behind the BIG increase here? I bought my BlackFire Midnight Sun last year on sale for $49.00 but the regular price was only $59.00.

I'm interested to see what everyone else makes of this..
Click to expand...

Marketing!
You, the Detailers made the product to what it is. Demands were good, product was good, but to raise prices this time of the yr where everyone's business is slow is a suicide in my opinion.This time of the year everyone is having sales on their product.Raising prices now it's like raising prices on air conditioners this time of the yr.
This is just my observation and opinion.
 
A lot of companies increase prices at the beginning of their physical year. Some companies track a year from different months than January. That's business. At my dads job their year starts over in October. If the price went up in April or May people would still cry foul.



Just wait for Todd to reply and you'll have your answer soon enough
 
BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Ivory Carnauba Paste will continue to be a hand poured, premium carnauba wax that is blended from the finest ingredients, including a helping of BLACKFIRE's Wet Diamond polymers. The formula has been improved further (technically the latest pour could be considered Batch 26) and the sizing has been increased by almost half an ounce. In today's world this is quite rare, we have all heard the saying and and have likely had to say it ourselves, “They dont' build them like they used to.” To combat rising manufactuing and chemical costs many manufactuers restort to using lower quality ingredients, decreasing size, or using lower quality ingredients to maintain or increase margins.

If you apply Midnight Sun thick you should be able to get at least 25 applications per the previous 7 ounce size. In identical kit form, which included one microfiber towel and foam applicator, Midnight Sun sold for $69.95, which comes to $2.80 per premium wax applicaton. With the increase in size (assuming two more thick applicatons) the improved formula cost only $2.96 per premium wax applicaton. A nominal increase for an improved formulation that includes a higher quality microfiber towel as well.
 
Todd Helme said:
BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Ivory Carnauba Paste will continue to be a hand poured, premium carnauba wax that is blended from the finest ingredients, including a helping of BLACKFIRE's Wet Diamond polymers. The formula has been improved further (technically the latest pour could be considered Batch 26) and the sizing has been increased by almost half an ounce. In today's world this is quite rare, we have all heard the saying and and have likely had to say it ourselves, “They dont' build them like they used to.” To combat rising manufactuing and chemical costs many manufactuers restort to using lower quality ingredients, decreasing size, or using lower quality ingredients to maintain or increase margins.

If you apply Midnight Sun thick you should be able to get at least 25 applications per the previous 7 ounce size. In identical kit form, which included one microfiber towel and foam applicator, Midnight Sun sold for $69.95, which comes to $2.80 per premium wax applicaton. With the increase in size (assuming two more thick applicatons) the improved formula cost only $2.96 per premium wax applicaton. A nominal increase for an improved formulation that includes a higher quality microfiber towel as well.
Click to expand...
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :mad:
 
Todd Helme said:
BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Ivory Carnauba Paste will continue to be a hand poured, premium carnauba wax that is blended from the finest ingredients, including a helping of BLACKFIRE's Wet Diamond polymers. The formula has been improved further (technically the latest pour could be considered Batch 26) and the sizing has been increased by almost half an ounce. In today's world this is quite rare, we have all heard the saying and and have likely had to say it ourselves, “They dont' build them like they used to.” To combat rising manufactuing and chemical costs many manufactuers restort to using lower quality ingredients, decreasing size, or using lower quality ingredients to maintain or increase margins.

If you apply Midnight Sun thick you should be able to get at least 25 applications per the previous 7 ounce size. In identical kit form, which included one microfiber towel and foam applicator, Midnight Sun sold for $69.95, which comes to $2.80 per premium wax applicaton. With the increase in size (assuming two more thick applicatons) the improved formula cost only $2.96 per premium wax applicaton. A nominal increase for an improved formulation that includes a higher quality microfiber towel as well.
Click to expand...

Understandable. BF MS was just selling at ACC for 60$. I know a while ago it was $70 with an applicator on other sites. People got used to it being 60 and now it's 80. A big jump...I think 70 would have been better taken since you said it comes with an applicator and a MF towel. Just expressing my opinion so please accept that for what it is. I love BFMS and it is one of the first BF products that I have used. I am on my second pot actually. Just in these not so great economic times, I feel it is a bit much of a jump.

PS thanks for responding to this thread, Todd! :yourrock
 
Thanks for the response Todd!

Doc, this is what happens when we give a product good reviews and help sell it. We have to pay more :D or go without. I am glad I bought mine on the closeout sale. I won't pay 80$ for a wax.
 
Hmmmm, I wonder how much the new release of Wet Diamond Sealant will be. I would love to get another tub of BFMS but I'm with some of you, will not pay $80 for wax.
 
TID10 said:
will not pay $80 for wax.
Click to expand...

this.

I'm confused though .. the link provided in the first post leads me to a 7oz wax with a case for 20 dollars more than other sites selling the SAME 7oz wax for the price we were all comfortable with (without the case) .. there should, IMO, be an option of whether or not we want this case or at least a bump in size unless I'm missing something .. Todd, you mentioned an increase in size for two more thick applicators but still 7oz ?? unless the new site wrote the wrong oz, I'm not down with that at all TBH
 
I own two full tubs that I purchased from PAC during the $49 sale.

Now I can tell my friends and relatives that I use an $80 wax on my cars.

:D
 
viOlaziOne said:
this.

I'm confused though .. the link provided in the first post leads me to a 7oz wax with a case for 20 dollars more than other sites selling the SAME 7oz wax for the price we were all comfortable with (without the case) .. there should, IMO, be an option of whether or not we want this case or at least a bump in size unless I'm missing something .. Todd, you mentioned an increase in size for two more thick applicators but still 7oz ?? unless the new site wrote the wrong oz, I'm not down with that at all TBH
Click to expand...

Thanks for pointing it out. I think some of the confusion is that the description wasn't updated, we have handled that now. The BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Ivory Carnauba has always been in a kit forum. We changed the copy to to reflect that. When PBMG acquired BLACKFIRE we did not have the packaging to support the kit.

We have worked overtime to make sure the transition from CMA to PBMG has gone smoothly and many people have worked overtime (lots of sleepless nights). It was an over site.

When I answered questions regarding size, it was for the new wax, which doesn't launch until mid January. The new size will increase to 7.4 ounces, the price will remain at $79.99. Additionally BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun will be available in a mini 3 oz for cost conscious waxers. You can still get a ton of applications out of it, the hardest part is getting the applicator in the jar.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top