The single most effective detailing product I've ever used!

CEE DOG said:
Garry, who told you this? Rick or Sam?

Hey Mark, when I saw the title of this thread I was sure you were going to say OPC!! :rofl
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I speak with both Rick and Sam on a regular basis. In fact, I just got off the phone with Rick just to clear a few things up. Rick told me that the block is exactly the same no matter who you get it from or the price you pay for it. Rick and Premium Finish Care were the absolute first to introduce this block to the industry circa 2005. Since then it has been available for the taking as far as distribution goes. They all come from China.

As far as autogeek selling the block and lube separately, I made the suggestion to Rick based on responses to the vieeo review I posted and he agreed.
 
Sounds about right, I recall mention of this block back in 2006. I'm concerned about marring.
 
Garry Dean said:
I speak with both Rick and Sam on a regular basis. In fact, I just got off the phone with Rick just to clear a few things up. Rick told me that the block is exactly the same no matter who you get it from or the price you pay for it. Rick and Premium Finish Care were the absolute first to introduce this block to the industry circa 2005. Since then it has been available for the taking as far as distribution goes. They all come from China.

As far as autogeek selling the block and lube separately, I made the suggestion to Rick based on responses to the vieeo review I posted and he agreed.
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Gary,

Where they the first to introduce it to the auto industry? I think and I can't confirm this, but 3M has had one on the market for sometime. Who was first I can't answer that, and not that it really matters to me. If I recall right, I was given mine before 2005 or there about.
 
Bill D said:
Sounds about right, I recall mention of this block back in 2006. I'm concerned about marring.
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Rick suggests to use the block on glass first to break it in. After the block surface is flat then go ahead and use it on paint. I have been using it for a bit now and I don't see the marring issue some have mentioned. Opinions are like... So my suggestion is for you to try it out for yourself. It definately has its place.
 
Beemerboy said:
Gary,

Where they the first to introduce it to the auto industry? I think and I can't confirm this, but 3M has had one on the market for sometime. Who was first I can't answer that, and not that it really matters to me. If I recall right, I was given mine before 2005 or there about.
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I typed exactly what Rick @ PFC told me.
 
Garry Dean said:
Rick suggests to use the block on glass first to break it in. After the block surface is flat then go ahead and use it on paint. I have been using it for a bit now and I don't see the marring issue some have mentioned. Opinions are like... So my suggestion is for you to try it out for yourself. It definately has its place.
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Ah, this is the first I'm hearing of the prep with glass step. That's probably pretty important.

It definitely seems to have its place, at minimum for the detailer who's time is money and needs the job clay does faster without having to renew bars of clay, so he can move on to the polishing step that he has to do any way..and/or...for the enthusiast who properly prepped the bar with the glass, who now no longer has to renew clay after touching up between details as well as full details.
 
The material looks like something made by 3M. I think for someone using it for the first time, it would be great to remove heavy caking of tar or overspray or something similar, that you don't want to waste a lot of clay on, to "get the hang of it" before using it on a typically lightly tarred/oversprayed/contaminated car.
 
I still can't believe how much easier this is to use(overall) compared to regular clay.
 
Beemerboy said:
I knew there was a thread about this and couldn't recall the date. Black bart started a thread in 2008. I replied to it with some pics of the one I have / had (don't know where its at today) Again this was 2008 so today product might be a whole different animal

http://www.autopiaforums.com/forums/detailing-product-reviews/23234-clay-bars-now-obsolete.html
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That thing looks pretty beat up in your pics, but that's the same thing you can buy today.

I am willing to bet it hasn't changed since its inception to the industry.

Another good tip for it is that if you dip the sponge in your rinseless wash water and saturate the sponge with the solution you can give it a light squeeze when you need more lube and viola.
 
Garry Dean said:
That thing looks pretty beat up in your pics, but that's the same thing you can buy today.

I am willing to bet it hasn't changed since its inception to the industry.

Another good tip for it is that if you dip the sponge in your rinseless wash water and saturate the sponge with the solution you can give it a light squeeze when you need more lube and viola.
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I had used it as a field tester for my local supplier, so yes it was used on all sorts of paint conditions.
 
Garry Dean said:
I speak with both Rick and Sam on a regular basis. In fact, I just got off the phone with Rick just to clear a few things up. Rick told me that the block is exactly the same no matter who you get it from or the price you pay for it. Rick and Premium Finish Care were the absolute first to introduce this block to the industry circa 2005. Since then it has been available for the taking as far as distribution goes. They all come from China.

As far as autogeek selling the block and lube separately, I made the suggestion to Rick based on responses to the vieeo review I posted and he agreed.
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Interesting, it was Rick and Sam that told me what I said in that earlier post... It was Rick that said it had clay in it and Sam that said it didn't.

Excellent to hear it's been straightened out.
 
I just wonder why we haven't heard a whole lot about it in a long time. Is it one of those "under the radar"/ "best kept secret" products? I just learned a few minutes ago here about prepping it with glass. I had totally forgotten about this prodcut til this morning. Maybe we just need more consumer education about it and more "field tests" demonstrating its effectiveness and safety.
 
I just learned a few minutes ago here about prepping it with glass.
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If that is considered an important step, I sure hope the manufacturer has taken responsibility and includes it with the instruction sheet.

I ordered my sponge from ADS an hour ago and it's already on the UPS truck! Dang!
 
One other thing, I wasn't sure about: When we do the "plastic bag test" running our fingers over the paint to feel for bumpiness--contamination,does this block remove this unseen contamination just how clay does or is it most effective for visible stuff like tar, paint, bug guts, etc.?
 
Mr. Gloss said:
If that is considered an important step, I sure hope the manufacturer has taken responsibility and includes it with the instruction sheet.

I ordered my sponge from ADS an hour ago and it's already on the UPS truck! Dang!
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That's faster than Santa Claus:rofl:rofl:rofl
 
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