New Mothers CMX CERAMIC SPRAY COATING

Did some testing today. Hydrophobics are awesome, I would not be worried at all if this gets wet instantly after applying for those who don`t like dealing with extended cures.

Tried a sample torture test with Prep-All and Poorboy`s Strip Down on CMX that`s been on the paint for 5 days stored inside. They both have a very heavy impact on CMX, neither showcase full removal, Strip Down causes some coating damage while Prep-All is more of a straightforward hard knock down of the surface tension. Strip Down has some very heavy surfactants, a rewash with Reset afterwards cleaned some of this up but the insane beading is knocked down for good pretty easily. This isn`t surprising, and again this type of test doesn`t mean much when it comes to actual durability, even waxes and sealants in the short term can be resistant against Strip Down and Prep-All while showing a drastic reduction in surface tension. McKee`s 37 V2 coating showcased heavy coating damage as well after Strip Down.

I left a strip of fresh CMX to polish out with Meguiar`s M210 on a black Buff and Shine finishing pad with the GG6 on speed 4 with 3-4 overlapping passes, this easily knocked down CMX and I considered it completely removed from the paint after observing the next rinse sessions. On half of this section polished with M210, I followed up with a panel wipe of Prep-All, the other half left untouched. The sheeting is smooth and slightly faster on the section that wasn`t panel wiped (polishing oils), wash with Reset evened both sides out, close to hydrophilic. Then going over the paint with surfactant heavy Strip Down, both sections are still evened out and we have a hydrophilic sheet. After paint polishing, I generally don`t see hydrophilic water behaviors until a surfactant is reintroduced to the surface. As a side note, I`m really liking Prep-All as a post polish panel wipe, and you can eliminate all needs for "strip" wash soaps by running Prep-All to knock down a good deal of whatever is still left on the paint prior to whatever you want to do, be it clay or polish.

There`s only a limited amount of information we can get in the short term. Paint felt great prior to the first rinse on CMX, I`m as amped up as anyone when it comes to strong beading but the reality is we can get cheap, immediate, and durable beading with Brilliant Shine Detailer. But the combination of this level of beading/sheeting and decent slickness was not available over the counter in a spray form until HCW and now CMX, and I am expecting CMX to outlast HCW and I do not prefer to use HCW without an immediate rinse afterwards.

So far so good with CMX, I`ll let the durability test on the daily driver to run its course.

Edit: Posting the raw video footage with no voice.

 
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applied some cmx to my 2000 ford f150 today over numerous prior sealants and waxes. easy on easy off, me likey.
 

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TheMeanGreen- I`ll be very interested to hear how the CMX compares with the FK1000P.

I do find it odd that the FK1000P isn`t good enough with regard to traffic film, but different people/situations and all that...

Heh heh, your curiosity far exceeds mine, stripping off fresh FK! That sounded like more work than I`ll do on any of our vehicles for the next few years :o
 
Did some testing today. Hydrophobics are awesome, I would not be worried at all if this gets wet instantly after applying for those who don`t like dealing with extended cures.

Tried a sample torture test with Prep-All and Poorboy`s Strip Down on CMX that`s been on the paint for 5 days stored inside. They both have a very heavy impact on CMX, neither showcase full removal, Strip Down causes some coating damage while Prep-All is more of a straightforward hard knock down of the surface tension. Strip Down has some very heavy surfactants, a rewash with Reset afterwards cleaned some of this up but the insane beading is knocked down for good pretty easily. This isn`t surprising, and again this type of test doesn`t mean much when it comes to actual durability, even waxes and sealants in the short term can be resistant against Strip Down and Prep-All while showing a drastic reduction in surface tension. McKee`s 37 V2 coating showcased heavy coating damage as well after Strip Down.

I left a strip of fresh CMX to polish out with Meguiar`s M210 on a black Buff and Shine finishing pad with the GG6 on speed 4 with 3-4 overlapping passes, this easily knocked down CMX and I considered it completely removed from the paint after observing the next rinse sessions. On half of this section polished with M210, I followed up with a panel wipe of Prep-All, the other half left untouched. The sheeting is smooth and slightly faster on the section that wasn`t panel wiped (polishing oils), wash with Reset evened both sides out, close to hydrophilic. Then going over the paint with surfactant heavy Strip Down, both sections are still evened out and we have a hydrophilic sheet. After paint polishing, I generally don`t see hydrophilic water behaviors until a surfactant is reintroduced to the surface. As a side note, I`m really liking Prep-All as a post polish panel wipe, and you can eliminate all needs for "strip" wash soaps by running Prep-All to knock down a good deal of whatever is still left on the paint prior to whatever you want to do, be it clay or polish.

There`s only a limited amount of information we can get in the short term. Paint felt great prior to the first rinse on CMX, I`m as amped up as anyone when it comes to strong beading but the reality is we can get cheap, immediate, and durable beading with Brilliant Shine Detailer. But the combination of this level of beading/sheeting and decent slickness was not available over the counter in a spray form until HCW and now CMX, and I am expecting CMX to outlast HCW and I do not prefer to use HCW without an immediate rinse afterwards.

So far so good with CMX, I`ll let the durability test on the daily driver to run its course.

Edit: Posting the raw video footage with no voice.


Not to go off tangent but what pressure washer do you use it’s awful quiet and looks to have instant off?


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Did another test today with CMX against Adam`s Ceramic Spray Coating. Very close initial water behaviors, did the same chemical wipedowns with Prep-All and Poorboy`s Strip Down on top of them. Adam`s resisted better against both chemicals compared to CMX, both are still impacted. No signs of coating damage on the Adam`s side, just a surface tension impact whereas CMX shows coating damage like you see in the video I posted above after Strip Down. Same peak gloss readings on both sides after the first wash with Reset, both look great on the paint. Adam`s is much lighter, doesn`t take as much of a wipedown to buff it off clean but I`m guessing CMX will hold up it`s high surface tension better in the short term in a real durability test.

Not to go off tangent but what pressure washer do you use it’s awful quiet and looks to have instant off?

I`m working with a Ryobi 1700psi 1.2gpm with the Ryobi MTM SGS-28 kit and Kobrajet hose from Obsessed Garage. The pressure washer is actually fairly loud, I had to reupload that video above with the sound turned down! I would rarely pull the pressure washer out before, but with the hose and gun upgrades it has completely transformed its usability, and I can film with one hand with the shorty gun. Love it now, and with the quick disconnects I can easily go from blasting with the pressure washer to flooding with the Gilmour nozzle prior to drying the paint.
 
Put the 2nd coat of CMX and CanCoat on earlier this morning. Will let it sit inside for 24 hours and then put it outside tomorrow. Supposed to be 60 degrees F tomorrow with 90% chance of rain so hopefully will get to see some natural water behavior.

CMX is a touch slicker, *seems* to have a bit more richness and depth to it v. CanCoat.

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It could just be the lighting but the CMX side looks a deeper red and the CanCoat a bit more *pink* if that makes sense. You can see that difference on the edgdes of the panels in the photos. But as i said, it could simply be the lighting.
 
Applied the Mothers CMX yesterday. Car is my daily and is well maintained. Had a little protection from last sealant I used. I should have removed it all but I was anxious to try this stuff. Went on super easy. Wiped off just as easy too. It seems to have darkened the color just slightly which is a plus for me. If this lasts anywhere near 3-4 months that would be great for this weekend detailer.
 

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Applied the Mothers CMX yesterday... It seems to have darkened the color just slightly which is a plus for me..

Thanks for posting about the (apparently subtle) darkening effect, those of us who really do/don`t want that wouldn`t want a surprise after spending the $ for it.
 
Yesterday I prepped my new truck for CMX, which was delivered today.
I washed/clayed/polished with a DA polisher and Mother’s Pure Polish / isopropyl alcohol wipe down.
The truck looks great!
Today I applied the CMX. I Didn’t notice any difference in the appearance.
It’s supposed to rain all night here in central NJ. I’ll post pics of the beading in the am.
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Yesterday I prepped my new truck for CMX, which was delivered today.
I washed/clayed/polished with a DA polisher and Mother’s Pure Polish / isopropyl alcohol wipe down.
The truck looks great!
Today I applied the CMX. I Didn’t notice any difference in the appearance.
It’s supposed to rain all night here in central NJ. I’ll post pics of the beading in the am.
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Congrats on the new truck. Looks great.
 
Yesterday I prepped my new truck for CMX, which was delivered today.
I washed/clayed/polished with a DA polisher and Mother’s Pure Polish / isopropyl alcohol wipe down.
The truck looks great!
Today I applied the CMX. I Didn’t notice any difference in the appearance.
It’s supposed to rain all night here in central NJ. I’ll post pics of the beading in the am.
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Another ZR2 owner! Truck looks great! Just got mine in November.

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Not bad at all. The horizontal panels are almost completely dry. I’m impressed with the beading. I’ll be applying a second coat later today.
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Applied a second coat of CMX to my truck, and a first coat to my wife’s car. I really like this product.
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Helo, welcome aboard!! The truck and the car both look great. How warm is it when you are applying the product?
 
I just picked up a bottle at Pep Boys. Once the weather breaks, I`ll try it on my pickup. Has anyone tried rinseless washes with the CMX? Does the wax component stick to CMX or wipe away?
 
I just picked up a bottle at Pep Boys. Once the weather breaks, I`ll try it on my pickup. Has anyone tried rinseless washes with the CMX? Does the wax component stick to CMX or wipe away?

What part of the country are you in and does CMX show up on your local Pep Boys inventory portion of the website?
 
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