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Cheap Ibrid nano alternative
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Considering all the interest, posting this write up on Reddit`s /r/AutoDetailing section would be great. No need for PMs there. Just my $.02
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*UPDATE ON PAINT TEST*
So long story short, no burn through after really trying to the point where my pad melted/shredded/deformed. For details and pics continue reading below.
Took readings of one spot that I marked the size of the pad, to stay on the same spot for sure. Readings before and after cutting and polishing session using orange light cutting/M105 and black finishing pad/M205 were pretty much the same 2.7 Mils / 70 Microns and there was swirl removal.
Swirl removal on another section:
For the burn through test spot , I took the yellow pad which has the heaviest cut of them 3,some M105 and I just left it on the same spot for almost a full minute increasing the speed to pretty much a speed I personally wouldn`t use. Nothing, no burn through. Tried it again for 30 seconds,more product and higher speed, stopped and added more product then continued for another 30 seconds and nothing . Tried it aggressively (more than necessary really) on a panel edge and nothing either. it removed the swirls and cleaned the area nicely, but no burn through.
Reference shot for you to see swirls in the area:
This is my pad after trying to burn through :
NOTE: Just because I did not experience burn through, does not mean that you will not. As most of us know, finishes will vary in thickness and "hardness" and I`m sure my test hood is a respray because normally this vehicle year/model is single stage and this hood is not plus when it was on the vehicle there was a yellowing to it compared to an actual SS panel. Also, if you plan on JUST getting the angled attachment like the one mikejames showed, I`d recommend doing what he did and getting BOTH so you can also have the flex attachment because your rotary tool (if like mine) will get pretty hot.
I hope this info helps.
So long story short, no burn through after really trying to the point where my pad melted/shredded/deformed. For details and pics continue reading below.
Took readings of one spot that I marked the size of the pad, to stay on the same spot for sure. Readings before and after cutting and polishing session using orange light cutting/M105 and black finishing pad/M205 were pretty much the same 2.7 Mils / 70 Microns and there was swirl removal.
Swirl removal on another section:
For the burn through test spot , I took the yellow pad which has the heaviest cut of them 3,some M105 and I just left it on the same spot for almost a full minute increasing the speed to pretty much a speed I personally wouldn`t use. Nothing, no burn through. Tried it again for 30 seconds,more product and higher speed, stopped and added more product then continued for another 30 seconds and nothing . Tried it aggressively (more than necessary really) on a panel edge and nothing either. it removed the swirls and cleaned the area nicely, but no burn through.
Reference shot for you to see swirls in the area:
This is my pad after trying to burn through :
NOTE: Just because I did not experience burn through, does not mean that you will not. As most of us know, finishes will vary in thickness and "hardness" and I`m sure my test hood is a respray because normally this vehicle year/model is single stage and this hood is not plus when it was on the vehicle there was a yellowing to it compared to an actual SS panel. Also, if you plan on JUST getting the angled attachment like the one mikejames showed, I`d recommend doing what he did and getting BOTH so you can also have the flex attachment because your rotary tool (if like mine) will get pretty hot.
I hope this info helps.
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*UPDATE ON PAINT TEST*
So long story short, no burn through after really trying to the point where my pad melted/shredded/deformed. For details and pics continue reading below.
Took readings of one spot that I marked the size of the pad, to stay on the same spot for sure. Readings before and after cutting and polishing session using orange light cutting/M105 and black finishing pad/M205 were pretty much the same 2.7 Mils / 70 Microns and there was swirl removal.
Swirl removal on another section:
For the burn through test spot , I took the yellow pad which has the heaviest cut of them 3,some M105 and I just left it on the same spot for almost a full minute increasing the speed to pretty much a speed I personally wouldn`t use. Nothing, no burn through. Tried it again for 30 seconds,more product and higher speed, stopped and added more product then continued for another 30 seconds and nothing . Tried it aggressively (more than necessary really) on a panel edge and nothing either. it removed the swirls and cleaned the area nicely, but no burn through.
Reference shot for you to see swirls in the area:
This is my pad after trying to burn through :
NOTE: Just because I did not experience burn through, does not mean that you will not. As most of us know, finishes will vary in thickness and "hardness" and I`m sure my test hood is a respray because normally this vehicle year/model is single stage and this hood is not plus when it was on the vehicle there was a yellowing to it compared to an actual SS panel. Also, if you plan on JUST getting the angled attachment like the one mikejames showed, I`d recommend doing what he did and getting BOTH so you can also have the flex attachment because your rotary tool (if like mine) will get pretty hot.
I hope this info helps.
Thank you for this review Migue, great work! When using a variable speed rotary with the 1" backing plate and pad you have way more control then one might think. It`s not a runaway train. like when using a small rotary bit. lol If this weather ever warms up here I will do more testing also, I have some headlights on a pickup that needs some attention.
Migue
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Yeah I cranked it up to near max speed and was still able to control it, I just knew my pad was getting destroyed at that point. My only "complain" would be that there`s quite a bit of vibration, but at the same time it`s a tool that I`ll be using all the time so I`m not concerned.
mikejames
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I haven`t used mine as much as you have Migue, but I haven`t noticed much vibration with my setup.
TheMeanGreen
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So, I actually put all the items in a cart on aliexpress, one month of shipping?! Yikes:blink:
mikejames
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Unless you want to pony up and pay the big bucks for fast delivery. I try to plan ahead and order all my stuff this winter for spring, to me it`s worth the savings to wait for the shipping.
Migue
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I noticed your extension is "beefier" on the hand grip area, maybe yours has better energy absorption since mine is hard plastic and slimmer.
mikejames
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I bet that is the difference, because it seems very smooth. A matter of fact I was prepared for more vibration then there was, and was a little shocked how smooth it is.
nothingface5384
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I got the autotriz nano hooked up to a flex rotary
nothingface5384
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[h=1]Proxxon Angle Polisher WP/E[/h]Item #38660
ia anotherone, looks more like a nano ..corded and rotary only
ia anotherone, looks more like a nano ..corded and rotary only
mikejames
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Mary B
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A few of us have been talking about a cheap Ibrid nano alternative. There was even a thread awhile back with some comments here http://www.autopia.org/forums/paint-correction-and-gloss-enhancement/186780-cool-dremel.html
I ordered 1" and 2" pads and backing plates with 3mm shanks to go along with my variable speed rotary tool, right angle attachment, and flex hose. It works great to get into tight spots like door handles, around mirrors, bumpers, door jams, painted window trim, ect. The key to this setup is a variable speed rotary tool. With the 1" pads I use speed 2 or 3 depending on how much pressure applied to the pad and which pad I`m using. With 2" pads I use speeds 3,4,or 5 depending on pad and pressure. Both the right angle attachment or the flex hose works great with the pads, just have to remember it`s a rotary and to keep the pad moving. Here are some pic`s of the setup.
VERY COOL, Thanks Mick. :thewave:
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mikejames
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Yeah I couldn`t bring myself to pay that for a nano either. If someone would come out with a corded version for around the $100- $149, they would sell like crazy.
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I initially thought to myself, "smaller must = smaller price tag"... Logical thinking must not apply here
Accumulator
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I have...what?...five (unless I`m forgetting something) rotary tools at present, but I`m still holding out for the "both neck-versions" packaging of the Nanos. I like/use rotary tools for all sorts of stuff, but when it comes to *autopaint* I`m all about a RO/DA action and any place too small for that to matter (it`d have to be AWFULLY small as I`m an anti-hologram-fanatic) I just do by hand. Not flaming those who like this rotary tool-centric approach, but I don`t think it`s for me. And of course, I`m only doing our vehicles so there`s little need to correct paint anyhow.