Never washed 7 yr old Black Totoya truck help ?

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silver2kws6

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So I have a friend who has a Scratched to *** Faded Black Toyota Tacoma Pickup with 150,000 + miles on the clock and it has never been washed or waxed since new. He says that Mother Nature washes it for him. :blink: If that is not bad enough he also has some magnetic stickers that have faded and worn away on the truck.

I was thinking for a X mas gift I wash/ clay / & wax with collonite 845 (also have Meg NXT or Meg Gold Class I'm not using my blackfire ! )

But do you think that will be enough to show an improvement ? I do not want to do a full Buff/Polish as I dont have that kind of time and I do not think its worth it since he doesn't care. But it hurts me to see a truck in such bad shape.

I have some 3m perfect it II compound and Polish but that is more for the DA than for hand application but... will it make a noticeable and time worthy difference before waxing ?

Let me know whats the most efficient use of my time.

Thanks !
 
if you wash, clay, and wax over a distressed finish, you just have a more shiny distressed finish. any aio wax/sealant would save you time and give improved results. megs d151 has pretty decent correcting ability for trashed finishes.
 
tropicsteve said:
if you wash, clay, and wax over a distressed finish, you just have a more shiny distressed finish. any aio wax/sealant would save you time and give improved results. megs d151 has pretty decent correcting ability for trashed finishes.
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My thoughts to the T you need to polish after the clay and it might take two or three polishing stages to with different levels of polish to accomplish this.
 
silver2kws6- I commend you on wanting to do this for your friend!

Note that the PI-II RC will work OK by hand but a) it'll leave things pretty micro-marred (maybe not so "micro" either!), and b) you oughta wear a mask when using that stuff as it contains silica dust (kill you dead just like asbestos). I too would rather do a two-step, using better stuff.

If buying stuff for this job, I'd do one pass with something like M101, follow up with an AIO that contains abrasives (probably either HD Speed or Zaino's AIO), topped with the LSP.

For the wax, the Collinite 845 will outlast your others, so I'd use that.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that IMO what the truck really needs is a chemical decontamination with something like ValuGard's ABC.
 
if you're doing this by hand, you could try glazing (filling in the scratches) after a wash and clay. Poorboy is a good option and follow up with any of your waxes. it'll look good until the wax and fillers wear away.
 
I am trying not to buy new products but if I can find it at Wally World or local auto parts store and its under 20 bucks thats ok.
I am doing it this Sunday so not alot of time to order new items online

Here is what I have to work with....

Gold Class Wash
Clay

Blackfire Wet Diamond All Finish Sealant - prefer to use only on my car but if it makes sense i will do it.
Meg NXT
Meg Gold Class
Collonite 845

Rotary Polisher - Prefer not to use

3m Perfect it II Compound / Polish for light colored cars- contains no silicone ( i didn't know this could kill me ) but good to know when i run out ) I will probably replace with Menzerna


Paint is rough tons of minor moderate and deep scratches and faded and its BLACKish


Thank you everyone ! This is definitely out of the NORM on what i would normally take on. I'm getting my GG6 DA Polisher on Monday and starting a shopping list for next season now that I am learning more from this site. Iron X being one of the first items
 
It sounds like that if you really want to show an improvement on the finish that you are going to have to deal with some of the swirls and scratches before you apply the 845. As stated earlier, a good cheap one step with some D151 and a tangerine hydrotech pad would give you a lot of bang for your buck. It has decent correcting ability and is very easy to use and remove. The D151 isn't a very long lasting LSP so I would still top with the 845.

If you decide not to do any correction, then I would apply a coat of Poor Boys Black Hole Glaze before applying the 845. It won't be as good as polishing, but it will fill in a lot of the swirls and make the finish look much nicer. The 845 can then be applied on top of the glaze to give it some longevity.
 
hd products is local but i dont think its the same HD as the 3d hd... crap still might see what kind of AIO they have to offer.

I wonder if Meg machine glaze by hand then blackfire then 845 would work.
 
silver2kws6- The Meguiar's Machine Glaze (assuming you're talking about M03) is a functionally nonabrasive (true) glaze and not what you need for this one IMO.
 
I was thinking #7 but many say its not worth it on newer cars. ugh just wish i could find a AIO for hand application locally.
 
I think I would focus on CLEANING more than correcting. For someone like your friend a correction step is probably a waste of your time. A thoroughly cleaned interior and exterior will go further in my opinion. Throw a coat of 845 on there if you want. It will feel nice for a couple weeks anyway.
 
spiralout462 said:
I think I would focus on CLEANING more than correcting. For someone like your friend a correction step is probably a waste of your time. A thoroughly cleaned interior and exterior will go further in my opinion. Throw a coat of 845 on there if you want. It will feel nice for a couple weeks anyway.
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Yeah, I think that's very fair. It's hugely unlikely the owner is likely to start taking care of the truck all of a sudden. Decontaminating the interior and a quik exterior wash might be much appreciated by the owner.
 
silver2kws6 said:
I was thinking #7 but many say its not worth it on newer cars. ugh just wish i could find a AIO for hand application locally.
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Same issue; M07 is a (less user-friendly) variation on the same theme as M03. And yeah, those Meguiars Pure Polishes (as they call 'em) aren't of much use on bc/cc paint IME. Wish I knew more about OTC offerings....

You mentioned BF- if you have their Gloss Enhancing Polish it might be worth a shot, awfully mild though.

I like spiralout462's idea about concentrating on *cleaning* it.
 
he will never wash it again unless its a automatic job at the gas station. The interior will really put my skills to work as there is inches of dust and dog hair EVERYWHERE.
I have some 303 protectant / Meguiars natural and Tuff Stuff all purpose cleaner that will probably go along way. but i dont know how long that will take as it is NASTY !
 
Buy him a gift and save yourself from a whole mess of hurt. If you asking the questions your asking, you have no idea the amount of work that is needed to bring back that beast to decent condition.

I also did a favor on a white Camaro many years ago. The whole thing needed compound, 2 step polish and wax. Not fun work to do for free. The Toyo is 3x as big and its black=NIGHTMARE

Just my 2 cents and


You can thanks me later. :)
 
Kinda agree with the above poster. I find it rather irritating when you do something like this as a favor for someone and then see it trashed not long after. I did a fairly in depth detail on my mother in law's VW Bug as a favor and I cringe every time I see it.....giant waste of time
 
JSFM35X said:
Buy him a gift and save yourself from a whole mess of hurt. If you asking the questions your asking, you have no idea the amount of work that is needed to bring back that beast to decent condition.

I also did a favor on a white Camaro many years ago. The whole thing needed compound, 2 step polish and wax. Not fun work to do for free. The Toyo is 3x as big and its black=NIGHTMARE

Just my 2 cents and


You can thanks me later. :)
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The more I think about this the more you are 100% correct. If i do a half ass job i will not be happy with the result even though he might be. Plus i spent a ton of time and product on something that will go back to the way it was a few months later. His wife has a newer car thats light blue i might just clay and wax that at least she takes it through the car wash every once in a while.
 
If you do decide to do it, you may want to look at meguiars black wax. I've used it several times (by machine on a light polishing pad) and have gotten good results. It cleanes really well and fills in a pretty decent amount of swirling, and I'm pretty sure it should work okay by hand.
 
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