zymol the real vintage holders

razr007 said:
wfedwar you can post quotes i'm impressed are you going somewhere with this
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I think where he is going is that

you stated that you used royale once

then stated that you had enought that you did 3 car 2x & a trailer



so did you use it one time or 7?





then you called BS on a very good detailer

and a respected member of our comunity

and stated he did you use it the correct way

after you youself did not see much of a differance
 
I used it once i did not have refills i did not have the tub i did not buy more i was lucky enough to be given some and used it once on all the auto/boats i had period just cause you have some does not mean there is only a pea size about get real



As for the bs it was a joke don't you read lol or should i spell it out for you mr. trouble maker grow up jealousy will get you know where but keep brown nosing maybe one day he will let you do a real detail
 
There's a caveat to the statement I made on this thread and that is you should always treat others with respect.
 
I don't understand how someone who can't complete a sentence with proper punctuation can afford an $8500 jar of car wax.
 
Holden c04 i agree with you all the way but you have to give respect to get it and the way that someone is talked to is how they will talk back

i'm not here to start problems i have been detailing for many years and just love waxes and the way you can take crap an turn it into a diamond that is why i like detailing but there is always the ones out there that have to start drama i think this is starting to get way off topic an needs to get back on fast









picus i'm starting to believe your right
 
This thread needs to stay on track or I'm going to have to lock it, and ask that everyone move on.



Here at Autopia, we have mutual respect for all members, and their opinions. When asking the community for an opinion on a product, be prepared for what you ask for. Some will like it and some will not, that's that.



So, again, everyone please mind your manners and keep this thread on topic.
 
Strange when a pro detailer assess a product, and he doesn't find it special, the fanboys switch into "defend & attack" mode and play the offended princess. Laughable and primitive.



Recently we did test the "new" VW Golf VI. The Germans prepared the sales reps accordingly, aka, this the new Messiah. However they forgot to tell them that the "new" car is actually a deeper facelift of the Golf V. 40% of the parts are the same, including roof, all glass except windshield (just because it became acoustic), the most parts of the body-in-white. The outer skin is new, interior is new but it still uses the PQ36 platform which is an older and less flexible thing.

I wrote that its ancient 102 bhp 1.6 liter engine is dull, and obviously a living fossil.

VW was offended despite of this factual information. They asked me why did I write this about the engine. I said hey, if you really think that something with 8 valves, 102 bhp, one cam is still fresh somehow... well this will be the new century egg - because this ****** 4 cyl is based on the EA827 engine family which debuted in 1974. But they know it exactly.



Interesting, that Mitsubishi just updated the Colt but still calls the maneuver as a facelift - despite the fact that they changed 65% of the car... also 5 more than the almighty Golf.



So, factually the Vintage and Royale sheds water like crazy. True. Do they look good? Yes, of course but not better than several other waxes. Besides, I can buy purer formulas for the fraction of their prices. Would I buy them? Stewwpiddd question. Are they worth it? Probably, especially when you believe that scientific impossibilities somehow do work, a Bentley Continental Flying Spur is a Bentley, the snow is basically red, etc.
 
Bence said:
Strange when a pro detailer assess a product, and he doesn't find it special, the fanboys switch into "defend & attack" mode and play the offended princess. Laughable and primitive.

Recently we did test the "new" VW Golf VI. The Germans prepared the sales reps accordingly, aka, this the new Messiah. However they forgot to tell them that the "new" car is actually a deeper facelift of the Golf V. 40% of the parts are the same, including roof, all glass except windshield (just because it became acoustic), the most parts of the body-in-white. The outer skin is new, interior is new but it still uses the PQ36 platform which is an older and less flexible thing.

I wrote that its ancient 102 bhp 1.6 liter engine is dull, and obviously a living fossil.

VW was offended despite of this factual information. They asked me why did I write this about the engine. I said hey, if you really think that something with 8 valves, 102 bhp, one cam is still fresh somehow... well this will be the new century egg - because this ****** 4 cyl is based on the EA827 engine family which debuted in 1974. But they know it exactly.



Interesting, that Mitsubishi just updated the Colt but still calls the maneuver as a facelift - despite the fact that they changed 65% of the car... also 5 more than the almighty Golf.



So, factually the Vintage and Royale sheds water like crazy. True. Do they look good? Yes, of course but not better than several other waxes. Besides, I can buy purer formulas for the fraction of their prices. Would I buy them? Stewwpiddd question. Are they worth it? Probably, especially when you believe that scientific impossibilities somehow do work, a Bentley Continental Flying Spur is a Bentley, the snow is basically red, etc.
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Good analogy
 
I have a few ozs of Vintage and have used it quite a few times. I can honestly say that it is a very nice wax and it looks and beads very nicely but that said I do not see it being that much better than any other nuba's be it $50 dollar or $300 nuba. That said if you like it and can afford it, more power to you, nothing wrong with indulging in something you enjoy. Personally I can find better things to spend that much money on. I think most people would be better served buying a Flex 3401, some menzerna and 50 bucks on your LSP be it P21S 100% or Victoria Wax or even Zaino or Klasse.



Personally I think it is a shame it is priced so far out of the stratosphere since it probably does not cost a fraction of that and if it was priced reasonably a lot more people could enjoy it. I guess it is kind of like that pizza in NYC that cost $1000 or something like that because it has lobster and Caviar on it.



I hope the owners don't take this as a slam on them as it certianly is not intended as that and everybody has different priorities and budgets. People like trump probably look at it as chump change especially when it comes to their Ferrari.
 
Bence said:
Strange when a pro detailer assess a product, and he doesn't find it special, the fanboys switch into "defend & attack" mode and play the offended princess. Laughable and primitive.



Recently we did test the "new" VW Golf VI. The Germans prepared the sales reps accordingly, aka, this the new Messiah. However they forgot to tell them that the "new" car is actually a deeper facelift of the Golf V. 40% of the parts are the same, including roof, all glass except windshield (just because it became acoustic), the most parts of the body-in-white. The outer skin is new, interior is new but it still uses the PQ36 platform which is an older and less flexible thing.

I wrote that its ancient 102 bhp 1.6 liter engine is dull, and obviously a living fossil.

VW was offended despite of this factual information. They asked me why did I write this about the engine. I said hey, if you really think that something with 8 valves, 102 bhp, one cam is still fresh somehow... well this will be the new century egg - because this ****** 4 cyl is based on the EA827 engine family which debuted in 1974. But they know it exactly.



Interesting, that Mitsubishi just updated the Colt but still calls the maneuver as a facelift - despite the fact that they changed 65% of the car... also 5 more than the almighty Golf.



So, factually the Vintage and Royale sheds water like crazy. True. Do they look good? Yes, of course but not better than several other waxes. Besides, I can buy purer formulas for the fraction of their prices. Would I buy them? Stewwpiddd question. Are they worth it? Probably, especially when you believe that scientific impossibilities somehow do work, a Bentley Continental Flying Spur is a Bentley, the snow is basically red, etc.
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Which fanboys, exactly? Aside from some weirdness from the OP, seems like most of the owners in this thread are, well, pretty chill about the whole thing.
 
Picus said:
Which fanboys, exactly? Aside from some weirdness from the OP, seems like most of the owners in this thread are, well, pretty chill about the whole thing.
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Not me! I'm freaking steamed!!!!! :furious:



LoL... or not. :)



Actually, the old Zymol (and Zaino, for that matter) arguements used to really raise my blood pressure. Then I actually started to read between the flames, and try to understand what people were saying in between the drops of flying spittle. I learned alot. And I also had to swallow my pride and realize that my 1500 dollars *didn't* buy me God's Gift To Detailing. But it did buy me a product I use and enjoy. Yup, it has it's benefits and it's drawbacks, which will be debated (sometimes hotly) from now until the end of time. And that's ok. I'll still be out in the garage whistling a happy tune as I hand-rub my vintage all over my......... car. ;)



And I'll still be using all my other LSP's, too. There's one thing that all this detailing has taught me: there is no such thing as one perfect product that fills *all* needs.
 
SUPERBEE364 i could not agree more on the waxes an if anything it is a life time supply of some awesome wax that i will never have to pay for again lol
 
For someone who is not in the detail business I have no problem with spending 3 figures on car wax but once you reach the 4 figure mark how does one justify putting that kind of money into wax that will go on a post war mass produced car? Kind of seems like putting a saddle on a sow.

Wax can only do so much with the paint it is being applied to. With modern cars I don't see that much difference in a paint job on a $40,000 car vs. a $140,000 car.

Having said that I am a big fan of Zymol.
 
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