zymol ebony black wax?

indica

indica

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does anyone out there use this and is this something i should think about trying out. its a bit on the expensive side but... what are your (the pros) thoughts!?

thanks in advance!
 
Zymol black or any other colored wax has that color agent mixed in and will hide micro-marring, but will look somewhat dull or muted.

If you polish you finish and have it perfect, DO NOT go with a color enhanced wax. Use a more clear wax.

I have used Souveran mostly on red and black (which it works well on) but if you look in the Poorboys Detail Day thread, we did a side-by-sdie test on my SC430. One side was Souveran, the other Nattys. Very hard to tell. Except that Nattys seems clearer, sharper.

There are also more high-end wax, like P21S/S100 and more.

If you use a sealant, stay with a clear wax. If you have many micro-marring etc, then you could use the colored wax.

Regards,
Deanski
 
Here is a viable solution for you. Hi-Temp makes a Black Paste Wax available through www.Topoftheline.com

I think it is under a thread called "Has anyone tried this wax" that you can look up under the Search function.

It is very reasonably priced, and I used it for the first time yesterday. I wouldn't necessarily say it "dulls" the finish with the colored flex agents and stuff, but it's just not as shiney/deep/clear as a P21S, Trade Secret, and others. I will let it sit for a couple more days to cure/harden, then apply Trade Secret over it to achieve that wet look I desire.
 
Yep, saw that stuff too... Still no need for "colored" wax if you do proper finish work on the paint.

The colored waxes are for people that do not want to spend the time and energy to properly prep the finish.

Sure it looks good, it's TS. But a color agent? Naaa I don need no steenkin color wax.:lmfao

Regards,
Deanski
 
The colored waxes are for people that do not want to spend the time and energy to properly prep the finish.

There is a place for colored waxes, and black is one of them. I wouldn't necessarily say time and energy are the only ingredients, EXPERIENCE and KNOWLEDGE come into play, especially with PC, Rotary, and wetsanding work. For those who don't know these practices, this wax comes perfectly into play.

Also, red is easier to "hide" or "fix" blemishes than black.
 
OK so I forgot Experience. You get the idea though...

Like I said, good for those not preping a finish fully and want to hide micro marring then this is the wax for you.

If you "have the experience" and have spent the effort and time, stay with a clear wax.

Again, it all depends on what you are trying to attempt.

Regards,
Deanski
 
wow, you must be a pretty popular guy......... lucky car, i wish i had a girl like that leaning on me..... wow, you actually got to meet tila??????
 
Nickc0844 said:
The colored waxes are for people that do not want to spend the time and energy to properly prep the finish.

There is a place for colored waxes, and black is one of them. I wouldn't necessarily say time and energy are the only ingredients, EXPERIENCE and KNOWLEDGE come into play, especially with PC, Rotary, and wetsanding work. For those who don't know these practices, this wax comes perfectly into play.

Also, red is easier to "hide" or "fix" blemishes than black.
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Nick,would you buy the black wax again when it's used up?
 
Also, red is easier to "hide" or "fix" blemishes than black.
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You may think so, but some reds are a bit more problematic then a black finish, and some blacks can become a nightmare. All depends on mfg and type of paint finish used. Some PPG reds are notorious for marring. A Dupont black laquer I did was a real nightmare as it was not shot very well in a clean booth. The marks I was seeing were some imbeded into the finish. Another black Imron went well, no problems and worked out fine.

Being in the business for so many years, I've known all types of finishes, paints and manufactures. I've painted cars myself as well. I am very fussy as to prep prior to paint... very. Then, Meguiars started their Detail lineup with products like Acid Rain Correction Cream. Was first to address clearcoats besides 3M outside the bodyshop environment.

I know the owner of Zymol, as he used to "cook" up his waxes in his old condo in Dolphin Cove in Stamford. He's now up in Brandford with a much more state-of-the-art facility. He does make some fine waxes that's for sure. He was one of the first to use MF towels as well.

In any event, those that want to wax and hide as most waxes do anyway is just fine. Nothing wrong with it. A lot easier to apply a high-end wax and cover some light marks than polishing all over again. For those wanting a really good result, this is one wax along with several others that do the job and do it well.

NXT is supposed to hide minor marring as well.

Regards,
Deanski
 
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