GoodnClean
New member
I thought you all would appreciate this. I ran a search on Ziebart and for the most part it confirmed my suspicions, horror stories of dirty rags and isopropyl alcohol, undercoating on tires, swirls and junk. I manage the forums over at the US side of the Lexus Owners Club. There was a discussion going on about "Whats the best wax for my Lexus?", you know the kind of thing that gets continuously posted over, and over, and over again. Well, we're kind of chatting back and forth, I mentioned Autopia and tried to pass on what I've learned about all the different products out there, pros and cons and such. This guy posts and says basically "Throw it all away, Diamond Gloss is it. It is an exclusive spage aged material, not a wax or silicon polish, blah blah blah, you'll never wax again blah blah blah, no more swirl marks ever blah blah blah" I posted that in my opinion something like this was nothing more than a polymer sealant that was sold for an outrageous price, and that I reccomend people keep their $400, just a number I made up, and buy a bottle of Klasse SG or Poorboys or something.
Well, the guy posts back quite upset, telling me not to speak of what I don't know, and quoted a whole bunch of stuff on the
Ziebart website, swore it wasn't a polymer, but a polymetric resin! (
). He also emails me and confirms my suspicions, he owns a franchise. He talks it up on the board and in the email, and I decide I'll bite and discuss it with him. I ask him what he would charge me for a bottle to try, or if he would part with a free sample. He immediately says, "Well, you might be able to find somebody to sell you some, but its much to difficult for a novice to master, it must be applied with an "orbital" and there must be specific steps taken to ensure that the finish is free of swirls. He also told me that the Ziebart store would do ALL THIS ("chemical bath" (dawn wash) remove swirls (SMR) polish to maximum gloss (polish or glaze) and machine spread the polish, oh and of course dress the tires) for the low price of $395 (My guess was right). I just about fell off my chair. Doesn't include the interior, thats extra!
So sad, all the talented people on this board get less than half of that for the quality work that they do, and these hacks get $400 to spread a polymer sealant on a car.
Any new experiences with these guys to share?
Well, the guy posts back quite upset, telling me not to speak of what I don't know, and quoted a whole bunch of stuff on the
Ziebart website, swore it wasn't a polymer, but a polymetric resin! (
). He also emails me and confirms my suspicions, he owns a franchise. He talks it up on the board and in the email, and I decide I'll bite and discuss it with him. I ask him what he would charge me for a bottle to try, or if he would part with a free sample. He immediately says, "Well, you might be able to find somebody to sell you some, but its much to difficult for a novice to master, it must be applied with an "orbital" and there must be specific steps taken to ensure that the finish is free of swirls. He also told me that the Ziebart store would do ALL THIS ("chemical bath" (dawn wash) remove swirls (SMR) polish to maximum gloss (polish or glaze) and machine spread the polish, oh and of course dress the tires) for the low price of $395 (My guess was right). I just about fell off my chair. Doesn't include the interior, thats extra!So sad, all the talented people on this board get less than half of that for the quality work that they do, and these hacks get $400 to spread a polymer sealant on a car.
Any new experiences with these guys to share?
