Zaino Z-2 Pro follow up with wax?

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asleepz

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Hey guys, have another newbie question for you guys.



I'll be going over a 2000 Toyota Corola here pretty soon. The paint has been very neglected.



I plan on using Sonus SFX-1 2 and 3 polishes. I'd also like to try Zaino's Z-2 Polish. Now I've got two questions about the Zaino.



1. Is this stuff machine safe?

2. Do I need to follow up with a wax.





If I have to follow up, what type of wax do you suggest.



Thanks all!
 
asleepz said:
Hey guys, have another newbie question for you guys.



I'll be going over a 2000 Toyota Corola here pretty soon. The paint has been very neglected.



I plan on using Sonus SFX-1 2 and 3 polishes. I'd also like to try Zaino's Z-2 Polish. Now I've got two questions about the Zaino.



1. Is this stuff machine safe?

2. Do I need to follow up with a wax.





If I have to follow up, what type of wax do you suggest.



Thanks all!
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I believe that the consensus from Zaino users would be Z2Pro does not need to be topped. I know that that is my opinion. The only products that I put on top of Z2Pro are Z1,Z5, Z6, and Z8



It depends on the look that you are trying to acheive. My suggesttion would be to apply your Zaino. Let it cure and see what it looks like.
 
You may desire to do a IPA (isopropyl alcohol) wipe down after polishing and Z6 QD prior to first application of Zaino.



Zaino is machine safe but not really necessary for application or removal.



As Cwcad and GM stated, let Zaino completely cure for a few days and than decide if you want to top. If you believe there will be any improvement do a side-by-side test. The consensus is that the only change is a muting of the Zaino sharpness or crispness. Use Z8 and you will get a little more of that carnauba "warmth" but at the same time retaining the "fresh-from-the-paint-booth" (wet and deep) appearance.
 
Alright so I'll give the Z8 a try on the topping.



Without the ZFX how long do I have to let it cure? I didn't realy get the whole thing. Is the ZFX only if your going to top it with another coat of something (such as the Z8)
 
blkZ28Conv said:
You may desire to do a IPA (isopropyl alcohol) wipe down after polishing and Z6 QD prior to first application of Zaino.
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I've seen other members mention IPA, both straight and cut 50/50 with water as a wipe down. I'm pretty much a noob, but can I get some clarification on what the IPA wipe down would accomplish prior to a applying Zaino?



Thanks in advance!
 
asleepz said:
Alright so I'll give the Z8 a try on the topping.



Without the ZFX how long do I have to let it cure? I didn't realy get the whole thing. Is the ZFX only if your going to top it with another coat of something (such as the Z8)
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It has been my experience that Z5 is ready for removal in about 15 minutes on mild days (60s). The best way to determine if it is ready to be removed is to do the swipe test. Run your bare finger across the paint and if it doesn't smear the Z2, you can remove it without any problems. I've only used Z2 with ZFX but I would guess they are pretty similar in their drying times.
 
Well I'll only be using the Zaino on our personal cars. So time isn't a big factor. I'll go ahead and give it a good while.
 
a73elkyss said:
I've seen other members mention IPA, both straight and cut 50/50 with water as a wipe down. I'm pretty much a noob, but can I get some clarification on what the IPA wipe down would accomplish prior to a applying Zaino?



Thanks in advance!
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Hi a73elkyss,

The IPA wipedown is just to remove any oil or polishing lube remaining on surface after polishing. One can use straight rubbing Alcohol on a MF or soft cotton towel. Dilution is not needed. During the IPA wipedown it is a good time to evaluated your polishing effort. Some areas may need further polishing or better yet you may discover the wonderful appearance of "nude" paint. :bigups

This nude finish is the perfect canvas for painting a Zaino picture and maximal bonding of the sealant for many viewings. :wavey
 
Correct. Z-PC was developed to be compatiible with direct Zaino sealants application immediately after polishing. This product eliminates any need for pre-cleaning (IPA wipedown) prior to sealant (Z2,Z2PRO, Z3 and Z5 (Z5PRO in the near future) application. :2thumbs:
 
IMO if you are going to use Zaino, use the whole system its synergistic.

With the addition of ZPC IMO you do not need to use other polishes If I am correct you should be able to clean up that neglected finish by using ZPC by machine with the right pad.



Before ZPC I have used both #80 and FPII then a Z6 wipe down with good results. Although I loved the #80 I didn't care for FPII.



IMO I would not top Z with anything other that Z8( nothing compares)



IMO I would not use Zaino without ZFX, I believe its helps bond and crosslink. After numerous applications I have found the perfect amount of ZFX and either Z5 or Z2 pro

to put 2 layers on my car. I don't feel its too expensive or too hard to use,not when the results are the longest protection in the industry. My finish is impeccable and long lasting.
 
if you go over z2pro with a carnuba, are you able to then put a layer of z2 or z5 on at a later time, ie at the next wash? Or do you have to start all over with a dawn wash, or strip down of all the sealants?
 
alexis said:
if you go over z2pro with a carnuba, are you able to then put a layer of z2 or z5 on at a later time, ie at the next wash? Or do you have to start all over with a dawn wash, or strip down of all the sealants?
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You are not going to be able to put Z2/5 over a carnuba. If you top zaino w/ a carnuba, you are going to need to do a dawn wash before you apply more zaino. The dawn wash will remove the carnuba but not the zaino.
 
SilverLexus wrote said:
Also, you don't need an IPA when using Z-PC in my experience and you can use Z-6.
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blkZ28Conv said:
Correct. Z-PC was developed to be compatiible with direct Zaino sealants application immediately after polishing. This product eliminates any need for pre-cleaning (IPA wipedown) prior to sealant (Z2,Z2PRO, Z3 and Z5 (Z5PRO in the near future) application. :2thumbs:
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Thank you both for the clarification!



Not to steal this post or anything, but the reason why I was asking about the IPA wipedown, was because I was planning on taking all of last years Zaino old formula Z2 off to start a new season with the newer Zaino products (Z-PC, Z2Pro, and Z8). I was under the impression that IPA mixed 50/50 w/water would strip all the Zaino off. My next step was to properly clay. Wash with Z7 and then start with Z-PC to polish.



As you say blkZ28Conv "PREP is everything". So, I want to do it correctly as I learn from all of you.



Thanks again!
 
No problem. :D

The Z-PC and claying will remove all the old sealant.

You are going to love the Z-PC, Z2-PRO and Z8 combo.



I see you are from Leicester, MA. Is that a small town off Rt 2. If so beautiful country. :xyxthumbs
 
blkZ28Conv said:
No problem. :D

The Z-PC and claying will remove all the old sealant.

You are going to love the Z-PC, Z2-PRO and Z8 combo.



I see you are from Leicester, MA. Is that a small town off Rt 2. If so beautiful country. :xyxthumbs
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Yep, can't wait to use the new Zaino products as I've read many good reviews/stories about them. And yes, Leicester, MA. is in the central part of Massachusetts, one town west of Worcester, but I'm not near Rt.2. It is nice area, but they use a ton of salt on the roads during the winter months. I mostly use the detailing methods that I've learned from here on my '73 El Camino SS. But that won't be taken out of winter storage until the spring when the salt is swept up from the streets. It's killing me having my new Zaino and other cleaning tools but have to wait.



Thanks again!
 
So if I wanted to remove the old layers of Z2 off my car IPA won't do this? The only way to remove it is to either clay or polish the car?
 
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