Zaino Question

cowboytruckn

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I was on the Zaino website wanting to try a few of their products but I noticed they don't have waxes. All I see is polishes which I am in the market for but would also like to get a wax to protect it when I am done.



What is ZFX and do I need it? How long can it take to dry?



I am also wanting to remove swirls on white paint and wanted to know which products I need and what type of buffer and pads would be best.



Money isn't the issue I just don't want to buy something I will never use. Any help is appreciated and also let me know of other products to REMOVE swirls. I have hid them long enough and want them gone.
 
cowboytruckn said:
I was on the Zaino website wanting to try a few of their products but I noticed they don't have waxes. All I see is polishes which I am in the market for but would also like to get a wax to protect it when I am done.



What is ZFX and do I need it? How long can it take to dry?



I am also wanting to remove swirls on white paint and wanted to know which products I need and what type of buffer and pads would be best.



Money isn't the issue I just don't want to buy something I will never use. Any help is appreciated and also let me know of other products to REMOVE swirls. I have hid them long enough and want them gone.





Zaino's descriptions are a bit misleading as Z2 and Z5 "polish" are sealants, NOT abrasive polishes. Z2 and Z5 have ZERO cleaning or polishing ability. They are the "wax" substitutes.



ZFX- If you read the the Zaino site it explains in depth all the info you need. ZFX is a curing enabler which allows you to apply up to three layers of Z2/Z5 consecutively in a 24 hour period. ZFX is mixed with Z2/Z5 and drying times vary from 15-40 min.



The only abrasive Zaino polish, is ZPC, which is nice, however it is for light marring and swirls.
 
The prior responses are right, but there's a little more to the story.



Z-PC, aka "Fusion", is a correcting polish. It is like a swirl mark remover in its ability. But there is also another mildly abrasive polish in the line up (Z-AIO) that I'll describe further down.



Z-2 and Z-5 are sealants that you apply in very thin coats, wait for them to dry, and wipe off. Z-2 has a brighter finish, and is great for white. Z-5 has a "deeper" finish and claims to fill slight imperfections, though most of us on this site don't use it for that purpose (and personally, I can't see any filling). Some folks use Z-5 as a first layer, then put Z-2 on top to get the benefits of depth and high gloss. But either product is excellent all alone, with conventional wisdom being that dark colors getting more from Z-5 and lighter colors get more from Z-2. But even spending three sentences on the difference between Z-2 and Z-5 might be overstating the case.



Z-AIO and Z-CS are relatively new products in the Zaino line. Z-AIO is an all-in-one type product which has some chemical and abrasive cleaning ability and also lays down some protection. It is a good finishing process after using Z-PC, but on its own is a good paint cleanser and prep product that creates a good base for the sealants to bond.



Z-CS ("Clear Seal") is a wipe on and walk away sealant (no residue to remove). It was the first successful such product to come to market. Some folks use the "tripletts" of Z-AIO, then Z-CS, and maintenance with Z-8 (which is a spritz and wipe spray, sort of like detailing spray on steriods). Others, like myself, are still experimenting by using Z-2 and Z-5, then gliding on a coat of Z-CS. Z-CS is claimed to be even more durable than Z-2 and Z-5, which is quite a claim since the classic Zaino sealants consistently test among the most durable on the market in third party tests.



The Zaino line up is a great one both because each of the products is among the best in its class, and because it now has lots of choices to suit personal choices on process and type of product. Those choices can also make it a bit confusing. You may want to start with an order of the Tripletts, along with the car wash, if you are looking for an easy, durable process. On re-order, consider getting one or both of the classics sealants, Z-5 or Z-2.



BTW, the Tire Gloss is really great both for tires and trim, and if you are already paying the postage....
 
For starters... I'd get



Z-AIO

Z-2p (light colors) or Z-5p (dark colors)

Z-6

Z-7



If you really like the system then get...

Z-16

ZFX

Z-8

Z-CS
 
Thank you that helps with all the info about Zaino. I am just a weekend driveway detailer and I am wanting to step it up and get a little more in depth and into the correction aspect.



If anybody has anything else please let me know.
 
cowboytruckn said:
Thank you that helps with all the info about Zaino. I am just a weekend driveway detailer and I am wanting to step it up and get a little more in depth and into the correction aspect.



If anybody has anything else please let me know.



If you don't want to spend too much time detailing your car then all you need is:



Z-AIO

1 coat of Z-2p or Z-5

Z-7 if you want to buy the car wash.



For faster results just get:

Z-AIO

1 x Z-CS



IMO, you only need about 2 layers of the Z polishes to get the great look. I learned that the hard way :chuckle:
 
If you are looking for corrective capabilities for your swirls, you need to add ZPC to your shopping list. It will *remove* (not hide) mild/moderate swirling. If you have heavy swirls, I'd look for other heavier swirl removers for that job.



I agree with the guy above, if you want fast, but great, results just grab the ZAIO and ZCS. I just did ZAIO+CS on my wife's car and the whole process from start to finish was only about 1-2 hours. And, for such a short process the car turned out great, and more importantly, the wife was impressed! If you are looking to get deeper into Zaino products or want to go for the ultimate shine+ultimate protection from the Z system, you also need to look into getting one of the Zaino sealants (Z2 or Z5) and Z8, and incorporating them into your first detail. The good news is that either way you choose (more in depth or less), you will end up with that great Zaino shine and class leading protective abilities for your paint.



Happy Detailing!



Mike
 
I had always thought the Zaino regime was too complicated, but this Saturday I got invited to a detailing clinic at a local performance shop that will feature guys from Zaino. :bounce I guess I can find out straight from the source! I've got one older car (87 Benz) that I did not think was suitable for Zaino, although I'd like to get that deep gloss. We'll find out this weekend!! :) If you have any specific questions, maybe I can ask if there is time. ;)
 
cowboytruckn said:
I would like to know what pads to use. I am looking at getting a PC and really want to erase all of those swirls and spiderwebbing.



For Z-PC, I used an orange and yellow pad, and finished with a white pad with Z-AIO.



Use the orange pad first with Z-PC.
 
Are most orange, yellow and white pads the same, or does this primarily refer to Lake C pads? Sorry - still learning the differences. :confused:



I'll try to take good notes this Saturday.
 
karburn said:
I had always thought the Zaino regime was too complicated, but this Saturday I got invited to a detailing clinic at a local performance shop that will feature guys from Zaino.



That's what everyone thinks! That is exactly why Zaino came up with Z-AIO/Z-CS.



If my Vette is prepped and ready, I can do Z-AIO/Z-CS in one hour or less.



Very fast and simple process.



P.S. Is Tony doing a demo over at KC Trends Saturday? If so, what time?
 
"If my vette is prepped and ready, I can do Z-AIO/Z-CS in one hour or less."



Yep, but the final sealing/wax is rarely more than an hour: it is the prep that both takes so much time and makes such a difference.
 
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