Zaino Issues (No Water Beading 30 days)

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winterh

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Hi all.

Last month I applied Zaino Z1 and Z2 after washing my truck with Dawn.



I noticed 2 weeks ago that the water was not beading up like it did earlier.



I use Megs car wash and was wondering if that may be the culprit.



This is my first attempt at using Zaino. I may not have allowed it to cure correctly?



I was getting longer water beading using Canubas.



If anyone has a recommendation, I sure would appreciate it.

Should I Z1 and Z2 it again and possibly leave it on longer?



BTW I use Z6 a lot as well in between washes.



Thanks,

Hank
 
Paint Prep is very important using Zaino.

Make sure you have an oil free surface.Minimum you need to do an alcohol wipe on the paint.
 
Sorry to here it, I rarely have heard this type of thing with Z. I would highly recommend getting ZFX, it treats two bottles of Zaino polish and cures instantly. I would just let the Zaino dry longer if you are using z1, at least two hours to be safe. You can't let Zaino dry too long, I put a coat on and left it in the garage for two days before buffing off, and it came off no prob. But I would still give ZFX a try.
 
QD with Z6 and see if the water beading returns and stays-if it does you know its a soap film on the car-if the beading is temporary you know it didn't bond
 
Did you use anything with the Z2? How long did you let it cure? What prep did you use before the Z2. I preach about prep a lot now, but in honesty, I can tell you that results are from prep, not product.... I used many layers of sealant on un-prepped paint to get what I get out of one layer on prepped paint. I learned a hard, sweaty, frustrating lesson about improper prep. It is a workout without much reward. Proper prep is the heart and soul of a detail. Your issue is either in the prep, or cure (drying time) I am agreement with the others who have reccomended ZXF. Also are you using Z2 or Z2Pro ?
 
I spent quite a bit of time on the prep. Clayed, polished with SSR 1, washed with dawn and then applied Z1 and Z2 Pro. I did leave the combo on to dry for about an hour. I think this is where I went wrong and should have left it on longer. It did appear dry (no smudging) when I took it off.



The truck is brand new and I wash it every week (have to, its black)



I'll pick up the ZXF and Zaino car wash and give that a whirl. I love the shine Zaino leaves behind. Just want it to bead water.



I'll start over and do an alcohol wipe on the truck before applying.



BTW, water does bead after applying the Z6 but that only seems to last a week.



Thanks!

Hank
 
I've tried everything with Zaino, and I just can't seem to get it to last on my car. It's not holding up too well after 3-4 months on the Excursion, and I haven't had it last longer than 2 weeks on my paint. :(
 
winterh said:
I'll pick up the ZXF and Zaino car wash and give that a whirl. I love the shine Zaino leaves behind. Just want it to bead water.
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Looks like you've done everything right except for how long you left it on to dry/cure. Based on your process, i'm pretty certain that it will work for you with ZFX.



I used Z5 and Z2 with ZFX about 5 months ago on mine (after prepping with Megs DACP) before a long and hard winter (snow, slush, salty roads, etc....) and it still beads easily. But its due for a take down to get the winter crud off and for my annual spring cleanfest.



Hope you get the results you're looking for.



Bob
 
Sounds like a drying / curing problem. Z1 and Z2 combo may take a long time to dry. Curing takes 24 hrs. ZFX is quite a time saver.

One question. Was the vehicle exposed to precipitation within the 24 curing period?

Your prep looks perfect and washing with GC will not effect a cured layer of Zaino. This wash is rather gentle in order to not wash off a carnuaba protectant. No way it will remove a sealant like Zaino that is properly bonded to finish.



Do not get frustrated, there is a learning curve (usage curve) on using this product. Not a difficult system but a little more exacting (prepping and drying/curing) than rubbing on a paste and buffing off. Proper drying after a proper prep is essential to great long lasting results.



Hopefully, you do not have the same Zaino resistant paint Matt has. ;)
 
winterh said:
Thanks all.

I'm going to get the ZFX. I am probably too impatient to let Z1/Z2 dry on its own.
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I did the same thing years ago when I first used Zaino. No ZFX back than. :o

After talking to Sal he pointed me in the right direction. :xyxthumbs
 
I've found that Z does not bead well as a carnauba when both are dirty / dusty. A wash for me normally returns the beading. I know that beading is seen as a gauge of protection, but I think it depends a lot on how dirty the car is at the time you're looking at beading.



And I love how Z is right after you apply it. It's so dang slick that water just sheets off-especially on vertical panels. It's almost tough to wash your car within a week of applying Z becasue it's so hard to keep wet!
 
blkZ28Conv said:


Hopefully, you do not have the same Zaino resistant paint Matt has. ;)
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That's a funny notion..... resistant?? Give the Z 24 hours on the first coat to make sure all is cured....
 
winterh:



You mentioned you used Megs wash. Believe it is designed to sheet water, so you may want to try another brand of car wash. The Zaino is still there, just apply some Z-6 afterwards and you should see the water beading again.
 
I used AIO/Z2 Pro w/ZFX on my brother's Odyssey in January and even the bi-weekly tunnel washes and wet spring haven't put a dent in the beading. Slickness is down a bit but a towel still glides over it nicely.
 
Well I'm almost out of the Megs so I might as well go for the Z car wash.



We have a serious pollen problem here in the SE and saw it mentioned that if the car is dusty, you probably won't see it bead that well.



I'm going to start over with ZFX and Z2 Pro this time, Z5, then another layer of Z2 pro (with Z6 inbetween the Z5/Z2).



This morning I Z6'd the truck and the roof was not slick at all like the rest of the truck. Is this an indicator that my Z was probably not applied well?



Thanks!
 
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