Zaino Brothers Products..? Any Good?

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Bud Weaver

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Before I shell out the dead Presidents on this stuff I want some feedback from folks here. I have a black enamel finish on my show ride and I want to keep it looking fresh. I have tried numerous products and so far, these guys claim that they can give me what I want.
Thanx!
 
Zaino gets a lot of hype but personally I don't think that its worth it. I feel that it gives the car a sort of plasticy look and I'm just not a fan of that. Its just my perception of it and not necessarily what everybody thinks about it. It lasts a long time and some people really like it. On black I don't think that using Zaino or Platinum or Klasse is going to make a difference. Black looks good no matter what is on it. You really can't go wrong. If you had a white or red or something like that then you might want to get particular about products. Black is black and everything looks pretty much the same in my opinion.
 
Hate to dissagre with my man fuzz but black is a hughe deal. You need something very clear. If what you use isn't clear it will smudge your reflections and yellow your color. Zanio and UPP are IMO some of the best choices for black.
 
'sokay Koop. We mullets are used to being disagreed with. :D I don't have a black car so my experience with what makes them look the best is limited. I'll defer to the opinions of the more experienced on this one, but I still feel that if you need 8 bottles of a product to get a job done then its too complicated. Give me my nice simple Platinum combo any day of the week.:headbang
 
Zaino is a great sealant, and I will use it for exactly that.

However, if you want to bring out a black car, one word, Souveran.
 
IMHO, Zaino is a fine product, and the new Zaino sounds like it's even better than the stuff I've got. Having said that, If I had a black show car, I would get it polished to perfection, and then do one of the following:

3 coats of UPP, topped with P21S.

or

Meguiar's Pro hand polish #81 or #7, followed by Souveran.

or

One Grands Omega Glaze, followed by P21S, or Souveran.
 
If its for long-gevity on Black
Zaino , UPP
If it can be maintain regularly
Machine Glaze, then Pinnacle Souvran

Souvran won;t last as long as Zaino or UPP
but it looks great/fantastic on black..

jeff
 
I'm not a Zanio fan but have used the porduct and it works OK like the fuzz it has a plastic look to it.

I like the following on my black car and it looks wet more than anything, and better yet does not seem to attarct dust like some others have.

Poorboys Swril remover ( on a show car won't need this step)
Poorboys AIO POlish with Carnuba
Poorboys EX

I have put on 2 coats and the second one really gave it the POP that I was looking for.
 
Zaino

IMO, I feel that Zaino delivers that wet-look, and some may call it "plastic", but if the prep work has been done correctly, you just can't beat Zaino for clarity! The nature of it makes it look as if your car just came out of a paint oven.

Here's my SC430 with Zaino on it:

Regards,
Deanski
 
If its a show ride and you want it perfect use a glaze like I.H.G., Meg #7, or Mothers Sealer and Glaze. You can always follow with wax like Meg #26, Mothers Pure, S100,Soverign,and Blitz.
 
The plastic look that I see in Zaino doesn't show up in the sunlight up close. Its usually when the car is at a distance in the shade that I see it. Its definitely got its good points to it though. I'd love to see three coats of Zaino next to three coats of UPP and then check the clarity.
 
"Plastic look"

The "Plastic Look" that people describe is due to poor prep work prior to Zaino. Most is left over oils/silicone and other is not using a really good fine polish to obtain the mirror shine you need prior to a sealant like Zaino.

Zaino "amplifies" whatever was left on the finish. If it's not fully polished or oils and or silicone is left, it can lead to a haze under it giving a false look or "plastic" effect. The oils/silicone interact with Zaino as it tries to bond. That's why it looks so "funky".

With the Lexus SC430, I used 3M PIII-MG with a polish pad. Following that, I used Glue-Zerna oh, sorry, Menzerna-FP with just a finish grey/black pad as I wanted the polish alone to burnish the finish to a high gloss. Once all polishing was done, I washed the finish with Dawn, followed by Z7 to remove any Dawn film. Then, a spray of distilled water/alcohol mix was used to further the finish by final removal of all oils left b y polishes. Wiped, then applied Z6 prior to a mix of ZFX/Z5 (even though polished, I felt it builds the level) up to 3 coats. Following that, 3 coats of ZFX/Z2. Z6 was used between each and every application.

As you can see from the pic, it was very glossy. Here is another:

All that's needed, no matter if it's Zaino or other sealants is a full polish/prep. If one does not have time for all this work, then stay with carnuba, as the oils/silicone act well with wax when it's applied. It helps the wax "float" and help it migrate to the finish. Good results can be had with S100, Souveran, or other waxes.

Sealants are a bit more labor intensive if you want it done right. Skip the details, and you get that "funky, plastic" look.

Regards,
Deanski
 
Before I detailed my truck last week I had Zainos on it, Zainos only. My truck has a much better shine now that I redetailed it. I feel you can not beat a carnuba shine. Also Zainos Swirl Remover is crap, it didnt help at all. It takes to long to apply. It did have a nice shine and protection but when I detailed last week the shine was so much better. The Zainos was not on my truck very long also cause I didnt care for it and I could kinda see the plastic look.
 
Z5

02Silverado,

Your problem was not getting it fully polished. Zaino covers whatever you did, nothing more.

Oils and whatever else was left on the finish contributed to the poor Zaino performance.

Z5 is not really a swirl remover or hides well. It will after MANY coats cover very minor spider webbing. Swirls you have to remove with polish B4 you use Zaino.

Waxes always are easier and can produce a good level of gloss, but it does not last long. But if you wax more often, then stay with wax.

Carnuba has oils in it, so yes it looks good over just about anything. You could use a light oil over a polished finish and it looks good. The real secret is all the polishing! Waxes also aid in covering/filling minor imperfections. Zaino amplifies imperfections.

If you like your wax, stay with it and don't bother with sealants.

Hell, I'm still working on the SC430 to get the rest of the minor swirls left on it by the dealers new division: "Swirl mark and scratch application department"!

I did a 360 Ferrari, which as perfect prior to using Zaino and it looks outstanding! Better than a wax as the owner wanted the best sealant used for show. In fact, I used several waxes on a panel to show which one will produce a better gloss that he wanted. Once all that was done, stripped the waxes and did apply Zaino.

On another occasion, I had a Austin Martin that the owner wanted wax and wax only. It's all a matter of preference!

Regards,
Deanski
 
Just bought my first corvette 1996 collectors edition been at the corvette forum seems they al use zanio I use klasseon my black jeep topped with natties blue loved the results would this combo woar on my silver vette
 
bit of an old thread to dig up, to ask if Klasse & Natty's blue would work on your silver vette

But to be fair I would go with the original Natty's, the blue was geared towards darker colors.

HTH
"J"
 
I've been a real Zaino skeptic for several years. I tried Z2pro and it's very nice and quite durable-looks great on pewter. I really like Z5pro topped with Z8 on darks-to my eyes it's very wet.
 
I haven't used Zaino, but it sure divides up the house when some brings it up - like wearing a #24 cap in a redneck country store. Personally, I want to always use the KISS principle, that is for ya'll that don't know - keep it simple stupid. When I hear about all the friggin steps some people do with Z, it reminds me of the deer meat story - one guy was tellin the other how he hated the taste and his buddy replied with about 17 steps to prepare it - finally the first guy says hell, a dog turd would taste ok after all that! Me, I ain't got all day to fool with it, wash, clay if needed, compound if needed, polish and seal it. If a car is fairly new its 3 steps - wash, polish, and seal. git r done!
 
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