Yet another Poorboy prototype review

awd330 said:
I finally had a chance to try two of the new Poorboy’s prototypes today. I tried the wash formula with low suds and high lubricity. I also tried the spray and rinse wheel cleaner.
The wheel cleaner formula is designed to be a spray on, let soak, and then rinse off type of product. It’s supposed to be strong enough to tackle German brake dust but not strip off sealants in the process. The designated guinea pig for my first use of this product was a Porsche wheel that was treated with Klasse AIO and SG about 4 months ago. In the interim, the car was regularly maintained with Spray & Wipe or traditional washes. Since the previous washing, the car has been driven a little over 200 miles. The Klasse has been doing a good job of keeping the brake dust to a minimum, but it’s still an issue. Here is a picture of the wheel lugs after rinsing with a hose.
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Marj I haven't tried the "spray & rinse" wheel cleaner yet but he sent me the wheel cleaner he's calling "Magnum" (I think) to try, and I used it the way you described your use of "spray & rinse". I think Steve told me that "Magnum" was stronger than the "Spray on Rinse Off" formula. I mixed it 50/50 in a spray bottle and sprayed it evenly onto already wet wheels during a wash. With less than 1 minute of dwell time and using a pressure washer we washed it off, and the wheel looked perfect everytime. I was warned that this stuff might have an adverse effect on polished aluminum, but applying it in 1/2 strength to a already wet surface, then washing it off quickly I didn't experience any bad chemical reactions from this product. I use softened water so this might have helped. I only had 1/2 gallon to play with so the jury's still out, but based on what I've seen so far I'm very excited about this new product.

Steve also sent the new "slick" wash formula, and since you've already covered it's performance nicely my only comment is that IT'S THE BEST CAR WASH SOAP I'VE EVER USED.

Poorboy's chemist is definately on his game!! :-p
 
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Marj I haven't tried the "spray & rinse" wheel cleaner yet but he sent me the wheel cleaner he's calling "Magnum" (I think) to try, and I used it the way you described your use of "spray & rinse". I think Steve told me that "Magnum" was stronger than the "Spray on Rinse Off" formula. I mixed it 50/50 in a spray bottle and sprayed it evenly onto already wet wheels during a wash. With less than 1 minute of dwell time and using a pressure washer we washed it off, and the wheel looked perfect everytime. I was warned that this stuff might have an adverse effect on polished aluminum, but applying it in 1/2 strength to a already wet surface, then washing it off quickly I didn't experience any bad chemical reactions from this product. I use softened water so this might have helped. I only had 1/2 gallon to play with so the jury's still out, but based on what I've seen so far I'm very excited about this new product.

Steve also sent the new "slick" wash formula, and since you've already covered it's performance nicely my only comment is that IT'S THE BEST CAR WASH SOAP I'VE EVER USED.

Poorboy's chemist is definately on his game!! :-p
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I haven't tried the Magnum (green colored, heavy duty) wheel cleaner prototype. Steve said that the wheels on my cars did not require the stronger cleaning properties of the Magnum version. He also said that the Magnum cleaner was more of a spray on, agitate, then rinse product. Sounds like your use of a pressure washer employed water pressure to do the scrubbing rather than a sponge or brush. Have you tried it with baked on brake dust yet?

Regarding the shampoo, I forgot to mention that I used a less concentrated mixture for my second round of testing. On the BMW, I only used half an ounce per gallon of water and the feel was still super slick. I am in full agreement with your comment that it is the best car wash soap I've ever used.
 
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awd330 said:
I haven't tried the Magnum (green colored, heavy duty) wheel cleaner prototype. Steve said that the wheels on my cars did not require the stronger cleaning properties of the Magnum version. He also said that the Magnum cleaner was more of a spray on, agitate, then rinse product. Sounds like your use of a pressure washer employed water pressure to do the scrubbing rather than a sponge or brush. Have you tried it with baked on brake dust yet?

Regarding the shampoo, I forgot to mention that I used a less concentrated mixture for my second round of testing. On the BMW, I only used half an ounce per gallon of water and the feel was still super slick. I am in full agreement with your comment that it is the best car wash soap I've ever used.
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:lmfao :lmfao :lmfao 1/2 oz per gallon huh? My money is saying that Steve suggested that!!:lmfao :lmfao :lmfao

I know I know, it's being tested.:cool

I used the Magnum on all kinds of brake dust and the results were good everytime. Outside air temp the day I used it was 109, so it's possible that gave the chemical a "boost", and I want to try it on a cold day. I still want to play with both versions of the new wheel cleaner, but after one day of testing it looks like a keeper.:)
 
I'm going to do some more testing tomorrow too:jump wish the wife didn't kill the camera on vacation:( sorry there won't be any pictures:boohoo:
 
awd330,
Would you say that you prefer the PB wheel cleaner over Meg's Citri-Gel? Since the Meg's is no longer in production, I am scouting around for a safe replacement (still have about 1-1/2 gallons in the garage though). I have been using it 50/50 to clean my wheels, but with my new car, I might go full strength. It has 5 spoke 17-inch rims where it is real easy to see the interior of the wheel, but real hard to reach in and clean because of the huge brake discs and calipers. i am definitely interested in the PB wheel cleaners.
 
rockford33 said:
awd330,
Would you say that you prefer the PB wheel cleaner over Meg's Citri-Gel? Since the Meg's is no longer in production, I am scouting around for a safe replacement (still have about 1-1/2 gallons in the garage though). I have been using it 50/50 to clean my wheels, but with my new car, I might go full strength. It has 5 spoke 17-inch rims where it is real easy to see the interior of the wheel, but real hard to reach in and clean because of the huge brake discs and calipers. i am definitely interested in the PB wheel cleaners.
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I consider the PB Spray & Rinse wheel cleaner and Meguiar's Citri-Gel to be completely different products with their own merits. The PB product is designed to be a no-agitation wheel cleaner which does not strip sealants. Citri-Gel cannot compete in that arena. However, Citri-Gel can be diluted and has a variety of uses including that of an effective wheel cleaner, but you must provide agitation to effectively clean the rims. CG (being a gel form) also allows you to spray the product and then let it dwell on an area for a longer period of time. I intend to continue using both products in different situations (I have about 2.5 gallons of CG left).

BTW - I concluded my test of the PB prototypes last weekend, but I haven't had the time to do a complete write-up. Look for my wrap up to this thread in the next few days.
 
awd330 said:
I concluded my test of the PB prototypes last weekend, but I haven't had the time to do a complete write-up. Look for my wrap up to this thread in the next few days.
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Okay, so my write-up for the prototypes is overdue. The production versions are already available. Here's a quick peek at the new bottles with the collector's edition paper labels.
 
Marj

awd330 said:
Okay, so my write-up for the prototypes is overdue. The production versions are already available. Here's a quick peek at the new bottles with the collector's edition paper labels.
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Ahhhhhhhhhh so that's what that wheel cleaner I've been hearing about looks like :brick

I am left to my imagination as to how good it works :rabbi

Maybe an :angel will bring me some for Christmas. :)
 
Is there a stronger formula then the one you used on the Porsche and BMW wheels. ? I need something heavy duty like that. I would really love to try this wheel cleaner. Is it avalible to buy yet. ? Has the for sale formula been changed is it still spray and rinse. ?

I need somethiing stronger then A2Z to get that caked on grime and crap off.
 
Fr0zen said:
Is there a stronger formula then the one you used on the Porsche and BMW wheels. ? I need something heavy duty like that. I would really love to try this wheel cleaner. Is it avalible to buy yet. ? Has the for sale formula been changed is it still spray and rinse. ?

I need somethiing stronger then A2Z to get that caked on grime and crap off.
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Yes it's available in limited quantities from either PAC or me ...we also just received our Chemical resistant sprayers, that will now come with the Spray and Rinse.:) If it really baked in, then use a little light aggitation before rinsing..;)

:wait :wait two things ...please use personal safety measures when using a strong wheel cleaner and for light cleaning the product can be diluted 50:50
 
Poorboy said:
Yes it's available in limited quantities from either PAC or me ...we also just received our Chemical resistant sprayers, that will now come with the Spray and Rinse.:) If it really baked in, then use a little light aggitation before rinsing..;)
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Steve I don't see the Spray & Rinse on PAC?or do we have to contact Dwayne?
 
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