WOWA Sealant suggestions

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uberyk

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Looking to see if anyone has found a wowa sealant that can rival FK1000P in terms of performance.
I use FK on the Audi as she's worth the effort. I've been using Opti Seal on the leased Civic and have been underwhelmed by the results.

I'm sure it's not a fair comparison but difference in hydrophobic properties between the two seem huge.
Two coats of FK on the Audi, two coats of OS on the Civic. FK blows the OS away in terms of beading and sheeting.
(I know beading isn't the only measure of protection but I love seeing uniform, tight beads after rain. It makes me feel like a better person)

Now I could just bite the bullet and put FK on the Civic as well but I really don't feel like putting that much manual effort into a leased car. Not to mention my wife would throw a fit if I spent that much time on a leased vehicle as well (she begrudgingly accepts the effort I put into the Audi).

I know there are a ton of options out now (Hydro2, Reload, various wax as you dry options), wanted to know if anyone out there had anything directly comparable to FK (ahem, Accumulator)...
 
uberyk- Heh hehh, I've yet to find *any* LSP that rivals FK1000P with the single exception of at least six coats of KSG (and that doesn't look as good or "self-clean" as well).

If I could just WOWA with *anything* that'd rival FK1000P, I'd be all about that! [heck], just finding another LSP that resists etching as well would be something!

I mean really.. durability that lasts way over six months regardless of use (I often go over a year between applications), self-cleaning in the rain (or "just washed" looking after just a pressure washer rinse), looks fine for weeks or even months between washes, and no etching from birds or bugs even if it sits on the paint for weeks or longer...tough act to follow!

On vehicles where I really want to cut down on the effort or otherwise use something other than FK1000P), I just LSP with something I like and then use a spray wax as a drying aid. NOTHING like FK1000P though, not even close (but I have reasons for using different LSPs on those vehicles).


I too would probably take a minimalist approach towards a leased vehicle. But then how long's the lease? Two or three years would be very few details with, say....one polish step or an AIO, a few coats of FK1000P after each of a series of washes, then just use a spray wax/QD/rinseless as a drying aid. Not like I have to do a "big detail" on the daily drivers every year; I basically just wash my vehicles.
 
Haha accumulator. I knew you wouldn't be able to resist a thread where FK was involved. In fact you may have been the one to turn me into FK many many years ago when I first got into this stuff. Back then it was a decision between collonite 845 and FK.

So you def don't have to sell me on the merits of FK, preaching to the choir here.
I was just hoping that in the last few years there was some ground breaking new product that I had missed out on.

I do want to try some of the newer options that I listed above thought maybe you had tried some out first before I spend my money. Hehe.

Honestly if it were just me, I'd not mind at least claying and throwing a coat or two of FK on the civic even if it's a lease. Hell, I've semi detailed rentals and loaners before. But if my wife catches me doing that all hell might break loose. A spray as you dry wax is way less noticeable.
 
Paypal me shipping cost and I will sent you a nano product I have been using, actually re purposing, as an after wash before dry, wipe on coating. Works well and looks good on first application, but do another at next wash or two, then it really shines. As it does bond to itself.
 
Go for a coating and you'll extend re coating till 18-24 months

Accumulator said:
uberyk- Heh hehh, I've yet to find *any* LSP that rivals FK1000P with the single exception of at least six coats of KSG (and that doesn't look as good or "self-clean" as well).

If I could just WOWA with *anything* that'd rival FK1000P, I'd be all about that! [heck], just finding another LSP that resists etching as well would be something!

I mean really.. durability that lasts way over six months regardless of use (I often go over a year between applications), self-cleaning in the rain (or "just washed" looking after just a pressure washer rinse), looks fine for weeks or even months between washes, and no etching from birds or bugs even if it sits on the paint for weeks or longer...tough act to follow!

On vehicles where I really want to cut down on the effort or otherwise use something other than FK1000P), I just LSP with something I like and then use a spray wax as a drying aid. NOTHING like FK1000P though, not even close (but I have reasons for using different LSPs on those vehicles).


I too would probably take a minimalist approach towards a leased vehicle. But then how long's the lease? Two or three years would be very few details with, say....one polish step or an AIO, a few coats of FK1000P after each of a series of washes, then just use a spray wax/QD/rinseless as a drying aid. Not like I have to do a "big detail" on the daily drivers every year; I basically just wash my vehicles.
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salty said:
Paypal me shipping cost and I will sent you a nano product I have been using, actually re purposing, as an after wash before dry, wipe on coating. Works well and looks good on first application, but do another at next wash or two, then it really shines. As it does bond to itself.
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Can you tell us what product this is? I am interested as well.
 
One could make the case that with today's modern paint/clear coat, any wowo product applied twice or more during the year is more than sufficient for a 2-3 year flease deal (as long as you keep it washed as often as necessary). For a keeper, I'm more fussy. :)
 
JSFM35X said:
Go for a coating and you'll extend re coating till 18-24 months
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Yeah, for a *lease* I can almost see going with a coating. BUT...unless I had a firm understanding with the service dept. I'd probably end up having to do some spot-correction and that remains my big deal-breaker for coatings (too much work to fix a one-inch scratch compared to a conventional LSP).

With a few dealers I do business with, yeah...I'd lease a white or silver vehicle, decon. and coat it, and just drive the wheels off it.

uberyk- Heh heh, copy that on your being on-board with the FK ;)

Now...what's this about your wife giving you grief over something like waxing a car?!? :o Of course, I guess I'm spoiled as Accumulatorette *wants* her vehicle(s) to be all concours....
 
Accumulator said:
Now...what's this about your wife giving you grief over something like waxing a car?!? :o Of course, I guess I'm spoiled as Accumulatorette *wants* her vehicle(s) to be all concours....
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Oh now you struck a nerve. Just yesterday I told my my wife (of 42 years!) I was going in the garage to wash and 'wax' her Verano and it led to a shouting match about "I don't want any of that crap on my car". She's spoiled and doesn't understand about taking care of a car, in part because I've let her get a new(er) one every few years.

Iffin she keeps on a yakin she'll be fer driving a smokin rust bucket afore she's done!!!

(she didn't get her way btw so it's real quiet around here.....right peaceful if you ask me! <haha>)
 
Accumulator said:
Now...what's this about your wife giving you grief over something like waxing a car?!? :o Of course, I guess I'm spoiled as Accumulatorette *wants* her vehicle(s) to be all concours....
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She very begrudgingly accepts my obsession and madness when it comes to the Q5 and the A4 before that. Those were my babies that were bought for the long haul so I'm able to justify time and effort spent on it to her. The Civic being a lease we bought for her to beat around back and forth to the train station for commuting, gets no such allowance.
She's very much a "car is a utilitarian tool" kind of person (although since meeting me, she refuses to drive a car without RainX or other glass coating).

It wasn't too bad until recently as we had our first child so now any time spent on the cars is doubly scrutinized.

One opening I have right now is that the Civic is parked out in the driveway until the A4 sale is completed. So it gets covered in pollen which she seems to hate, go figure. So I'm going to use that as an excuse. With the Q5 fully coated with FK I can start sneaking in a panel on the Honda here and there I'm sure.

I've also been selling her on the Meyers Brigg personality types and how being an INTJ, I needs me some alone time to recharge. Haha. Fun times being married...
 
MiVor- Well, after !42 years! you know what works for the two of you!

I don't get the "don't want that crap..." bit though, but hey everybody has their priorities.

Eh, things are probably just different with me and my wife, like me she doesn't want to *ever* replace her car (and only took a new A8 because somebody rear-ended her '94 S4 in a huge way). So keeping the vehicles as close to showroom as possible is a pretty big deal for both of us.

Iffin she keeps on a yakin she'll be fer driving a smokin rust bucket afore she's done!!!
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Heh heh, when I first met my wife back in the '80s her zillion-mile GLC (she's always been about just keeping them and kinda likes racking up the miles) was so rusty it left stains on my garage floor! She quickly came to understand that had it been kept nice she wouldn't have had to replace it (the structural rust got scary). Even with the aluminum A8 she's very on-board, appreciates all the work on the (steel) undercarriage parts..."never again!" with regard to letting her car rot away.
 
MiVor said:
One could make the case... For a keeper, I'm more fussy. :)
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Yeah, while I'm all about long-term, I can understand the "disposable (leased) car approach. I used to think people'd get dinged over wear/tear if they neglected them, but it never seems to come up even when the vehicle is really trashed. I've actually encouraged friends to just get the dealer's "protection package" (heh heh, scare-quotes intentional!) thrown in as part of the lease negotiation- looks/works good enough for them and they never have to think about it. They just go through the tunnel-wash and have the dealer "refresh" it when it's serviced.
 
Leases work if you're willing to accept some things.
The main thing being it is not the most fiscally responsible way to acquire a vehicle. If you want that, you'd buy a well maintained used car for long term.
For us the plan was to have the Q5 be the new baby, and the A4 relegated to beater status aka Wife's car.
The more I thought of it, I didn't see it as a good long term plan. It's a manual trans car riding on a sport suspension with a bigger turbo that my wife would never enjoy. I just knew that after a few months the bumpiness and shifting would annoy her.
Not to mention the added maintenance that comes on a European car with over 100k miles on the odometer.

So we decided to get rid of the A4 while it still had some resale value left and grab a super cheap lease for the second car. This way I'm only dealing with maintaining one car and the wife gets to drive a more "modern" car with present day amenities.
The whole wear and tear thing I've had a decent experience with, granted I've only had one lease prior to this. The inspection went great and we weren't on the hook for any additional fees on a car I really never took care of. Also if you're willing to get into another lease with the same mfr, they'll waive all those things.

Going back to the topic, I think I'll try out the Primo Hydro Max and Carpro Reload. I'll probably try out the Meguiar's UQW as well since it's cheap and easy to get. The Primo and Reload will have to wait until that "geeky" store has Reload back in stock. I can never make small orders there because of the ridiculous shipping charges (spoiled by Amazon prime).
 
MiVor said:
Oh now you struck a nerve. Just yesterday I told my my wife (of 42 years!) I was going in the garage to wash and 'wax' her Verano and it led to a shouting match about "I don't want any of that crap on my car". She's spoiled and doesn't understand about taking care of a car, in part because I've let her get a new(er) one every few years.

Iffin she keeps on a yakin she'll be fer driving a smokin rust bucket afore she's done!!!

(she didn't get her way btw so it's real quiet around here.....right peaceful if you ask me! <haha>)
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Now that's funny and also hits home. Two females (one for 42 years also) here and they can't seem to grasp the concept that maybe taking care of $35000.00 should be a priority.

Dave
 
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